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As a Finn, I'm much more glad about this sorta spending than some gaudy buildings
what are you talking about mate. I'm saying I want them to spend it on healthcare... on housing.... on transportation and better infrastructure.
and by the way. I'd take the gaudy buildings over a fucking malfunctioning (a pilot just recently had to EJECT DURING A TEST FLIGHT) .. expensive to maintain stealth jet (1.7 trillion JUST FOR THIS) when we already have the world's largest arsenal by far. which....btw what do you suppose we do with all the jets and arsenal we already have!??? how is this not just us yet again over manufacturing. what war are we going to start next to justify this.
it's so sickening
As a Finn he doesn't personally benefit from U.S. citizens having affordable health care but the weapons they develop may be used to protect HIS homeland. Like everyone else he has personal interests.
oh yea nobody benefits from the people making their products being happier and healthier. lol this is you rn
They generally don't. All the possible benefits are very abstract and very long term. If you can get people to give a fuck its because of in your face humanity and decency not such abstractions.
okay bud since taking care of your working class doesn't matter I hope you get misttreated at your job then some shut happens and you have no-one to turn to. it's insane you would even insinuate that taking care of your populations needs and keeping workers happy isn't something worth caring about holy shit.
you guys just love the boot on here or something it's wild or maybe you guys are all like Harvard grad executives or somethin. so out of touch imo.
obviously you wanna keep your workers happy, obviously it doesn't seem to be a priority at all and that's okay with you guys lol. it's so wild to me.
I'm just saying there's way better needs to be met than hundreads of billions into a jet that still has plenty of issues even today
you guys getting so mad about that only proves how brainwashed we are its insane.
a jet won't keep away ww3.we can improve our current forces without getting freaking milked bs constantly taking the worst part of the deal. also diplomacy is a thing maybe we should reply more on diplomatic charisma than military might.. which by the way is not a ll the end all be all.
insane leaders will still do insane things. again we already have an insane arsenal that we should just be taking care of and putting money into rather than just abandoning it.
I'm just saying the way we spend on military is incredibly inefficient and unneeded -,-
literally I've linked to government sites of like government organizations that track shit like this like they even know they're getting fucked and you guys are on here like white knighting the us govt it's wild
and ww3 is gonna happen not from putin but from the insanely unstable conditions WE FUCKING CREATED (look up bitter lake.. excellent documentary on this)
that is where instability and power (from oil money) is rn. not saying that we shouldn't support Ukraine but just that its popular red herring rn. there is already a genocide going on.. and we are funding it.
To recap. He said as a person in a threatened NATO country he was glad we spent lots of money on our military because it might be needed to help protect his country. You said something on the order of "what are you even talking about" I explained this in smaller words.
You said some warm fuzzy stuff and I said if you wanted people to care you had to make them care about people not abstractions. You then went off on 17 tangents and that brings us up to date.
You seem to feel like I've taken a contrary position everything you've ever said or indeed thought based on you projecting everything your mad about onto me. Have you considered having a coffee and leaving and coming in again?
what? okay so we should just allow mistreating your working class then? wtf are you on about