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Honestly, the complaining is the standard "our clubhouse" kinda vibe you get absolutely every time this happens, where a community grows rapidly from small to medium. Literally, every single time.
While I understand the complaints, its always struck me as a little silly for people to make them in a place that was clearly intended to grow large. Like reddit for instance. Or a server called lemmy.world, seems to me to be signaling a clear intention to seek to become large.
I mean, yes, the tone changes. It's going to go through several evolutions, not just one. And every one of them will bring complaints. It's just people being people, "get off my lawn" is probably a sentiment roughly as old as the animal kingdom of biology?
That said, I deeply appreciate that the Fediverse actually has a built-in solution for them. Which they of course already know, they're just bitching and moaning, that's all.
Regarding community duplication, that is the system working as intended. If someone wants to combine them into one, it would not be difficult to make a program to do this.
And regarding duplication, you can see something similar in Reddit where you end up with multiple subreddits with just sightly different naming but with the exact same purpose. I really don't see how people see that as an issue. Eventually it'll solve itself like it did in Reddit, people just join the biggest community and the rest die out.
But multiple communities would be much better because if one goes down or gets defederated or just goes to shit the community as a whole would still exist. It just needs a separate content aggregation layer so that all content from the same communities end up in a single feed.
yeah, i agree the issue of multiple communities serving the same purpose is minor and i don't expect it to be an issue as time goes on.
maybe it's not as much of an issue as i think but my concern would be if one instance has the vast sum of users would others be discouraged from defederating with it. if a benefit of being federated is being easily discoverable by users, than having the largest userbase would make federating with that instance inherently more valuable as communities would want to be found by those who would participate.
it could be that it wouldn't be a big issue to exist away from large instances, and i'm sure many communities wouldn't need or want to seek out users through large general instances. i just wouldn't want admins of large instances to hold unequal power over smaller federated instances that would want to reach the largest userbase.
From what I'm seeing, I think the general idea is that defederation should be a last resort unless the goal is a secluded community. So you really would only defederate from large instances if there's an issue, so it'd be worth it and can be reversed when the issue is resolved,
or
if you didn't want your instance connected anyway, so then it doesn't matter how big they are.