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I don't understand the recent trend of making cards like 2060 sounds like the lowest you can go for "recommended", and any developer puts even 3070 as recommended suddenly become lazy. No, it is because everyone is starting to move on to PS5/Series X as the "baseline" spec as they are almost 3 years old now and pretty much become the "majority" of the gaming market.(note, PC takes really small amount of the gaming population even when you don't count mobile gaming.)
So if you go check what is consider PS5/Series X equivalent PC parts, it's the 3070/6700XT. People with lower spec machines should be glad that developer even want to put more efforts to accommodate your needs and release a game that supports your hardware in the hope to get some extra bucks if you feel happy about the result.(honestly it really is a pita for dev team ) It is perfectly reasonable to release a product that just can't run on older hardware, the developer is constantly making that decision during and even after game released with patches to address newer hardware being released. (this part I mean newer hardware but at lower performing tier, ie. the [x]060s)
Older gamer has experience the era where games just can't run on CPU anymore and you have to buy extra GPU and extra audio cards to get all the features delivered. It was acceptable then why not claiming developers are lazy because the game can't run on my Pentium 4 with Riva TNT2(I had 256MB ram and the last aureal 3d audio card).
There are other developer making games that also targets older hardware, play those and vote with your wallet. Or, use your 4080 GPU budget to buy PS5/Series X AND whatever latest switch and you can play like 99% of games released and not missing any exclusives. (Yes, you can buy all 3 consoles with the price of 1 super inflated GPU card. )
I have 2080 super, which is probably a bit behind the 3070 and it pretty heavily out performs my ps5.
on what games you have compared to? how do you get that conclusion?
Control. Runs better, looks better on pc, compared to ps5.
Baldurs Gate 3. Main thing I've noticed, which may be a CPU issue is there's a longer pause on the Ai's turn on the ps5 sometimes. I have a 5900x on the PC, and playing in normal, whereas I'm playing tactician on PS5. So maybe the harder difficulty requires the CPU to think longer, or my cpu is just significantly better than the one in the ps5.
Edit. Pretty sure I was using the ryzen 3600 for control. 30fps with ray tracing on PS5, and while not a solid locked 60 on pc it was pretty close. Control is why I want Alan Wake 2 on pc, but I refuse to buy from epic.
Looking online, the 5700xt or 2070 are the closest match to the ps5.
BG3 is a CPU issue because of how the game was made.(mentioned in DF's video)
Control however is a build issue where developed features for RTX/DLSS are not available on PS5 due to hardware and API limitation.(thanks to Nvidia). It's not really a good comparison unless you run without those and pick the same texture resolution/render upscale etc. Then compare your frame time/fps to claim 2080 super with your rig outperforms PS5. Remember, when we say "out perform", we need to compare with as close possible work load and then see which one finished faster. Not which one looks nicer with all the knobs tweaking.
Ps5 does have other stuff like checkerboard and dynamic resolution available though. Fact remains, control was almost a locked 60fps on pc, and locked at 30 with less impressive visuals on PS5. And I would bet it'll be same for Alan. In that I could get better framerate while also having better visuals on my pc than which I would get on the ps5.
I went to look up spec data, PS5 10.29 TFLOPS, 2800 Super, 11.15 TFLOPs. So by spec number 2080 Super is slightly better than PS5's GPU. But for Control like DF mentioned RTX/DLSS gives pretty big advantage for fidelity.