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Is that like with Russia: Ukraine is bad for not pursuing peace? What kind of world view do these people have? Hamas is the only one who can make peace happen. For example by returning all hostages. Since their official goal is the destruction of Israel... Yeah, good luck with that.
Let's see how much I get downvoted from people who upvote fucked up conspiracy nutjobs like this one.
Could you elaborate on why you believe that only Hamas can make peace happen?
One obvious criticism of this is the fact that the western bank is not controlled by Hamas, but is still being bombed at the moment. It seems that only Israel could stop that.
I'd also like to note that Hamas has exicitly said that their goal is a return to the 1967 borders. This has been the case since 2017, so I would be interested in your sources for the claim that their official goal is the destruction of Israel.
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter
Who is on the west bank? Hezbollah. They are Hamas times 10 in terms of power. Since they choose to participate in the attacks, they get attacked as well. So yes, in that case it is not actually Hamas who can stop. It is another terrorist organization.
You mean that 2017 charter that does not even recognize Israel? Which calls them Zionist enemies? As per your link? Not exactly sure how that would lead to peace or why Israel should accept that outlandish bullshit.
Hezbollah is a Lebanese political entity, not sure where you got the idea that they're in the west bank (currently governed by the PLO, if you weren't aware).
I don't think not recognising Israel is outlandish either. There are quite a few countries which do not recognise Israel - Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Indonesia spring to mind.
Hezbollah is about as political as Hamas, how does that change their status as terrorist organizations? Here is a list.
You name some countries known for their superb human rights. I wonder why not recognizing Israel and having among the worst human rights coincides.
Regardless of whether you think Hezbollah are a terrorist organisation or no, they're not in the west bank, they're in Lebanon (a different country).
Those countries I mentioned are just examples of large countries that do not recognise Israel. My point is that it is not 'outlandish' to not recognise Israel.
You are correct.
A quick read suggests that it is mostly Palestinians and a bit of Hamas in the west bank.