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No Lemmy ettique missing as there wasn't enough of a community to form anything. I had no issue with the smaller size and all the usual posters I'd see and chat with have dispersed with the larger array of content.
But now you don't get people signing up, talking about the lack of content and disappearing. Or servers set up in hope and shut down - eope.xyz caw.ai Jeremmy.ml or ones that ragequit fapsi.be. And of course wolfballs.
Even if most go back to reddit it will still be an improved space with the servers and communities that remain I think.
The lack of "Lemmy etiquette" is basically the whole point of the project. There is no general rule. There are places for shitposting, there are places for serious discussion. The civility fetishists get their corner, the people who enjoy replying to bigots with pigpoopballs.jpg get their corner. There is a niche for everybody - and if there isn't - you can start one without being completely isolated from the rest of the network (at least, initially).
The situation on Reddit was absurd. The "Reddiquette" rules were generally okay, but very open to subjective enforcement. I spent many years on Reddit. I browsed a lot of different communities on there. But if one person on a community I browse makes a post saying "look what this asshole is saying" on another community I browse, and I go there an make an insightful comment, I am now "brigading." If somebody wants to politely debate whether trans people have a right to exist, or whether or not we should send the homeless to concentration camps, and I tell them to fuck themselves, I am being "uncivil."
Communities need mods and admins who have their back, not mods who become cops for the admins who become cops for the board of directors who only care about increasing KPIs and profit. The coolest thing that can happen on the Fediverse is landing in a place where the admins will eat a block or two to defend the integrity of their communities. This is something which is simply impossible on Reddit.
I should've known it was the beginning of the end of my time on reddit when I commented "well if people are gonna start flying Russian flags on their trucks here in the USA I'll be keeping a baseball bat in the trunk of my car" shortly after the invasion of Ukraine began - specifically non-violent, and if they'd have been able to read my mind, the intent was so I could smash the windows out of their truck not actually beat the shit out of them, and I received a 3-day ban from the whole site for "advocating violence" or whatever the fuck it was called. I took a looooong break from reddit after that as I was honestly pretty disgusted an admin essentially supported Russia by banning me for my benign comment, but found myself there again.
Without RIF I'm definitely never going back.
Double Edit: removed my previous edit as it was based on reddit tendencies I need to get over haha
Jesus Christ, I'm not a tankie ๐
I'm a 'reddit is too ban friendly' guy.
I also mentioned in another comment that the false equivalency example might not have been too great. Hope you see where I'm coming from.
Ah yes, I see where you're coming from now. I'm sure you can understand I'm quick to go on the defensive/offensive after dealing with how it is on reddit ๐คฃ
I definitely agree, they're definitely way too ban happy as of late.
It's incredibly refreshing to have an actual conversation that doesn't immediately dissolve into accusations and name-calling though, and I greatly appreciate your replies and I'm very much looking forward to using Lemmy know. I'll just have to work on my tendencies I've acquired from reddit ๐คฃ
I'm gonna remove that edit as it was kinda dramatic anyway and I wrote it from the viewpoint of, I just woke up at the time and I'm used to how the reddit hivenind runs. This is an extremely refreshing community just from our interaction here so, hate to be repetitive but, I'm even more excited for this community now.
Haha, the feelings mutual. I lurked on Reddit , having imaginary arguments with strangers and never quite commenting.
If you see one of the comments on this thread , both of what we said as examples could be misconstrued for violence. Certainly didn't think before i wrote it.
We're both learning , friend ๐