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[–] teolan 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Not even Cyberpunk or the Witcher could sell more on gog than on steam even though you knew that there the developers got 100% of the money spent.

Most gamers don't know and/or don't care, so they will take the least resistance path, which is Steam.

~~Steam has a "most favoured nation clause" which prevents companies from actually selling for cheaper on other platform. This is how steam maintains its monopoly. If it were possible for CD Projekt Red to sell it cheaper outside of steam it would force steam to actually charge developers less.~~

Edit: see below, it's actually not that clear.

[–] Chailles 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They could sell for cheaper, they just can't sell Steam Keys specifically for cheaper than what's on Steam itself. Which makes sense honestly, you're literally using their service for both presence and distribution.

[–] teolan 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Looking at steam's own policies, this is true for steam keys, but there is an an going lawsuit that claims steam also makes this apply to non steam-enabled games: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/07/valve-issues-scathing-reply-over-the-facts-behind-a-steam-antitrust-case/

But looking mosre closely than I did previously this is based on:

  1. An contract that is apparently not public
  2. A 1 time example that Valve denies

So I don't really know, but if what valve says is true (which looks like it is), then I don't see any monopoly abuse indeed.

They do have a monopoly, but it's in large part for providing a better service. As a Linux user, I prefer Valve 100% over Epic that buys Rocket league and discontinues linux support. I do prefer Itch and GOG for the possibility of no-DRM games, but I've got to say it's overall a worse experience (no auto updates, no social features etc...)

I made my initial comment after watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOEG5qmMQas which suggested that Steam applied the MFN for non steam - enabled games too, but was done prior to Valve's response.

[–] pkpenguin 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is still easily verifiably untrue in practice. Go to isthereanydeal and you'll see verified, approved Steam key retailers running sales for under the Steam price on hundreds of games literally every day. Humble offers a global discount on all keys in their store if you're s subscriber, undercutting virtually every Steam page. That's not to mention the bundles they sell which regularly cut hundreds of dollars of keys down to a few bucks.

[–] teolan 2 points 1 year ago

The steam documentation mentions for keys that while it is OK to run sales on different platforms at different times, the steam store must have similar sales within a reasonable time period, and he base price must not be higher on steam.

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