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Just curious.

I used eSim for a while when I first got a phone that supported eSim, because I wanted to make it harder for a thief to disable the phone tracking, but now my main phone is broken and I'm a bit annoyed at having to chat with customer support for half and hour to activate eSim on another device.

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[โ€“] boooooboo 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Phone models sold in China (even iphones) have had dual sim capabilities for a long time before eSims were a thing. I mean like 2 physical sim card slots in a phone. Adoption of eSims isn't much of a necessity when the phone itself already can carry 2 sims by default.

On the other hand American phone models only ever had the one sim card slot. It's a bit strange that eSims haven't been as widely adopted.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My last phone had a dual physical sim in the same slot. Unfortunately it was shared with the SD card reader so you couldn't have dual sim and an SD card.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think that's because of Chinese people's travelling habits. Popular domestic travel destinations include Hainan for a tropical experience, Sichuan for pandas, Beijing for landmarks, Hong Kong for fake Britain, Macau for gambling, and Taiwan because it seems foreign enough without being actually too foreign (to Chinese people).

Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan require travel permits to enter, despite the Chinese government considering them "domestic". They kinda straddle the line between actual domestic and international. Regardless, it's not common for Chinese people to have phone plans that work in Hong Kong, Macau, or Taiwan, so they'll buy the disposable SIM cards I talked about earlier. That's why phones typically have two SIM slots.

Getting visas to travel internationally is a pain for Chinese people because they have to visit a consulate or embassy, apply, and then be subject to high scrutiny. After all, it seems everyone's scared of Chinese spies nowadays. It's also very expensive by Chinese standards compared to applying for a cheap HK/MO/TW travel permit. The People's Republic of China passport is pretty weak compared to European or American passports. Chinese people can get visa-on-arrival or visa-free access in South Asian countries, Central Asia, or Africa, but these destinations are not popular with Chinese tourists.