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This is a bit political but i feel this should be looked at. Whatever it's on on the Lemmy instance or the Mastodon instances.

My main concern is about the concept of Embrase Extend Extinguish they could use.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (34 children)

EDIT: I've gone ahead and posted this as an announcement on furry.engineer and pawb.fun. I'd strongly encourage our community, both here and on Mastodon please provide me with your opinions and thoughts.


Given it seems like it's predominantly blocking Meta's new "Project 92" initiative[1] which is an ActivityPub-based Twitter clone that could theoretically integrate with other services like Lemmy and Mastodon.

I'm personally against preemptively blocking them, despite my hatred for Facebook / Meta / whatever Mark Zuckerberg decides to call the company today. I may consider a silence action to avoid any excessive flooding / spamming of the federated timeline, especially if their rules don't align with ours on key topics, such as advertising and misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@crashdoom @brodokk

I very much agree with the wording on the pact's page: I believe that a Facebook fedi project, and for that matter corporate influence in general, is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity.

Fedi has been my escape from corporate machinations, and I don't want to see that erode over time. A corporate fedi project will draw a large userbase to itself, and that will make it very difficult for instances to maintain independence without cutting theirselves off from large sections of the fedi community. Corporations will try to shape fedi to fit their bottom line, and that will not be in the best interest of community members. I very much expect corporate footholds to be the start of embrace, extend, extinguish campaigns.

So I say make it as hard as possible for them to even try -- and send a unified message that there are no profits to be found here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly, while I wholeheartedly support blocking Meta, I'm not in principle opposed to corporations trying to get involved in fedi. I think it's kinda the nature of it that it's not going to be overly corporate-friendly anyways.

It's just that Meta have so thoroughly shown themselves to be bad actors, there's zero reason to give them another chance. It doesn't have to be (IMHO) all-or-nothing. We can be broadly open to companies dipping their toes in the water, while still saying "fuck facebook".

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