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Zelensky dismisses compromise with Putin, pointing to Prigozhin’s death (www.cnn.com)

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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Very true. Russia (well, putin) has shown over and over that he can't be trusted, he will stab you in the back and he will murder you.

Hell, the entire land grab from Ukraine was going against accords made where Russia promised to allow Ukraine to exist as a sovereign nation and Russia would get all their nukes. Russia got the nukes and theb went on to invade and steal Crimea and then to just drop all pretence and invade the entire Ukraine.

Just give some shitty transparent excuses, mumble something about non existent Nazis, and just steal lands.

So no, you can't make deals with Putin

However, Ukraine is in a tight spot. They still rely on the west (and mostly United States)for the Weapons and gear they use on the war. Russia has the Republican party in their pocket and if the Republican party (or worse trump) wins the election, they'll at the least stop all Help and likely hand the Ukraine to Russia on a silver platter.

This means they basically gotta gain as much as possible before the US elections, which is why they're grinding on so much without the proper air support they'll start having at the end of the year. It sucks, but it's the situation they're in.

It's impressive though to see how much they advance without air support. Slava Ukraine!

[–] onparole 13 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The eerie thing is the change in the behaviour of conservatives regarding Russia. If Trump wins, will NATO fall?

[–] grue 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The eerie thing is the change in the behaviour of conservatives regarding Russia.

What change in behavior? Conservatives hated the communist Soviet Union, but Russia as ruled by czars or fascist dictators is everything they admire.

(Also, to answer your question: yeah, probably.)

[–] onparole 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"What change" ? They were the cause of the red scare. Weird how the enemy suddenly becomes a friend, Trump is duped and the westworlds most open spy ever. EVERRRR

[–] grue 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You completely missed the point, which is that post-1990 Russia is the polar fucking opposite of the Soviet Union that the conservatives hated during the Red Scare, in terms of ideology along the left-right spectrum.

Trying to pretend fascist Russia is the same as the USSR is bullshit on the same caliber as calling the modern Republicans the "party of Lincoln."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun fact: Lincoln was Marx's penpal and Marx influenced Lincoln's opposition to slavery :)

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