this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
67 points (94.7% liked)

Interesting Global News

2564 readers
244 users here now

What is global news?

Something that happened or was uncovered recently anywhere in the world. It doesn't have to have global implications. Just has to be informative in some way.


Post guidelines

Title formatPost title should mirror the news source title.
URL formatPost URL should be the original link to the article (even if paywalled) and archived copies left in the body. It allows avoiding duplicate posts when cross-posting.
[Opinion] prefixOpinion (op-ed) articles must use [Opinion] prefix before the title.


Rules

1. English onlyTitle and associated content has to be in English.
2. No social media postsAvoid all social media posts. Try searching for a source that has a written article or transcription on the subject.
3. Respectful communicationAll communication has to be respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences.
4. InclusivityEveryone is welcome here regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
5. Ad hominem attacksAny kind of personal attacks are expressly forbidden. If you can't argue your position without attacking a person's character, you already lost the argument.
6. Off-topic tangentsStay on topic. Keep it relevant.
7. Instance rules may applyIf something is not covered by community rules, but are against lemmy.zip instance rules, they will be enforced.


Companion communities

Icon attribution | Banner attribution

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This IS because buyers get confused. I am French. I get confused.

There are products that copy burgers to meet the demand of users willing to eat less meat. You can clearly see what it is and there is no issue with these products.

But there are also products faking meaty products, with vegetables because it’s cheaper. Let’s take this one for example : https://www.auchan.fr/charal-happy-family-viande-hachee-a-cuisiner/pr-C1159092 It’s not written “viande hachée [de boeuf]” (beef meat) on the package, because there is 20% of water and vegetables to be cheaper. However, everything is made to make you think it’s just beef. There is nothing really visible selling it as an alternative to eat less meat. There are just very small lines on the bottom of the package. The title of the online shop is wrong, selling it as “viande hachée” (ground meat). It’s clearly misleading.

There are tons of such examples and that’s why there is this new law in France.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this 80% meat and 20% vegetables and thus not vegetarian? If so, this isn't the same kind of product as an actual vegetarian/vegan patty that is made from vegetable protein only.

I agree with you that the product you linked is labelled confusingly. But it won't ever be called "vegetarian patty" but rather "meat reduced patty".

Edit: You get confused not by vegan burgers (no meat contained) but by non-vegan burgers (less meat contained) and thus by the meat industry, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The decree is about the two kind of products. Meat with plants, and 100% plant based food that try to mislead people.
As a consequence, it also concerns plant based food that are clearly branded as vegan food, but it's not the main target.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So there is

  1. 100% plant based food, labeled for example "vegan sausage"
  2. 100% plant based food, labeled for example "sausage"
  3. X% meat based food, labeled for example "meat reduced sausage" or "sausage with added vegetables"
  4. X% meat based food, labeled for example "sausage"
  5. 100% meat based food, labeled for example "sausage"

Personally, buying 2 or 4 I'd be surprised that these products contain plants. But I fail to see how 1 and 3 would surprise anyone anymore. "Vegan" and "vegetarian" are terms I'd expect any adult to understand as "does not contain meat/anything from an animal". So, calling anything "vegan sausage" clearly communicates that it is "vegan food in sausage shape" or "vegan food that is intended to replace sausage".

No one in their right mind would think of olive oil as something to lubricate some olives...