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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (49 children)

Ah yes, windows where I have to somehow figure out how to install the drivers for my network adapter before I can actually connect to the internet, on top of having to go to a different website for each device that needs a driver to find the correct one, download it and install it.

Vs Linux, where network (and most essential) drivers are baked into the kernel, and all other drivers (for peripherals, etc) can be had via a package manager, where you can often find free and open source solutions. Also, video drivers are automatically installed with the OS (provided you are using a distro with a proper graphical installer for ease of use, cough use Endeavour cough), and automatically updated when the system is updated.

[–] w2tpmf 51 points 10 months ago (21 children)

Sounds like you clearly haven't used Windows in over a decade, or even close to two.

I haven't had to install a network driver since Windows XP. Even then it had drivers for most cards built in.

[–] Crass_Spektakel 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

When I last installed Windows I had to google where do download Libreoffice, Firefox, Steam, Audacity, VLC, Gimp and a lot more software.

On Linux most came preinstalled, the rest was one click in the Repository ("Store" for Generation Smartphone)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When I last installed Windows I had to google where do download [...] On Linux most came preinstalled

You can't have it both ways.

On one day, you complain about all the so called "bloatware" that's preinstalled on Windows (more "pre-linked" and easily installed, and these "links" are easily deleted).

The next day, you complain that the specific subset of software you want to use is not preinstalled on Windows.

Lastly, the way you go about finding where to get your software, that's more of a philosophical question. Do I want someone else to curate a list of available software, or do I want to visit the publisher's website and get it directly from the source?

[–] Crass_Spektakel 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At least on Debian/Ubuntu I can use tasksel to select a useful preset of packages right while installing. Base is just a text mode shell with minimal command line tools, Server has some Network Stuff, LXQT, Gnome and so on... for the total N00b it is fine to default to KDE or Gnome, I prefer LXQT though. And tbh, I think Firefox, Libreoffice and VLC are useful preinstall in nearly every use case while the usual stuff on Windows is pretty useless (Another Antivirus? Really? A trial version of a paint programm inferior to Gimp 1.0? Office 365?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

while the usual stuff on Windows is pretty useless

"useless" or "useful" to you. That's my point. Someone who does not have any use for Libreoffice will get just as annoyed as you would get with a pre-linked Office-Suite.

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