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Car Prices Might Be Unsustainable for Buyers (www.wsj.com)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A lot to unpack here.

well dont necessarily use diesel, use high octane fuel instead, methanol, biofuel, anything,

They are all pretty bad ways of powering motors, to be honest.

ice cars are now way efficient than ever..

And yet they are far inferior to electric motors. Combustion necessarily comes with the lions share of the energy being wasted as heat.

but mining cobalt and lithium is way harmful..

It's not great, but then again, neither is the extraction of fossil fuels from the ground. From what I can tell, it's actually far worse than the metal extraction we're doing.

Consider that you may have fallen for fossil fuel industry propaganda that is trying their very best to cling on to their last years of high profits.

also cars arent the most harmful transportation invention in this world: how about airlines?

Apples and oranges. I'm not even really sure why you're bringing it up.

have u ever considered taking a train instead of flying (especially country bound ?)

The vast majority of my long-distance traveling is done by train. My last international trip was by train, in fact! If only we invested more in trains, and stopped subsidizing flying. I love traveling by train, and I'm not exactly a fan of flying.

always forget that i am commenting in c/ fuckcars.. i should consider unsubscribing from here; hating solely on cars is pointless)

I don't think most people in here are solely hating on cars. They are bad, though, and that's kind of the topic. There are other communities for hating on other harmful things in our world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

what i am trying to say: evs cant be easily adopted beyond western europe and us:africa, latin america, eastern europe and some parts of asia dont really have solid public transportation or good car infrastructure, let alone afford ev infrastructure and ev loans, so ice cars are a sustainable mean of transport in those countries: which could account for half of the earth population. investing in a more affordable and sustainable form of energy is beneficial for everyone: sure if u guys (rich countries) feel like susbidizing ev instead then go ahead, but u r hurting other countries in the process: especially lithium rich countries. investing in hydrogen would be cool for everyone, but i am no expert. also lithium storage and electric engines aren't fit for aerial or maritime transport, so better think long term for the benefit of everything, it shouldnt be only about cars. how it feels, driving evs to combat pollution: https://imgur.com/a/1vMSrgD . but i salute ur choice of boarding the train instead of airplane in order to get around.