this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2023
404 points (95.3% liked)

Work Reform

10055 readers
413 users here now

A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

Our Philosophies:

Our Goals

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

A new survey shows that the vast majority of senior executives say would've approached their return-to-work push "differently."

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (24 children)

There are no arguments for returning to the office that make sense. People who argue against remote work are historical artefacts from a bygone age.

[–] couragethebravedog 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Security is definitely a legitimate argument for some companies. The average home network is nowhere near as secure as an enterprise network and BYOD is not nearly as secure as the systems setup and managed by your organization.

Edit: Everyone saying "use a VPN that's how you secure your home" needs to do more research. I have a comment below explaining how just using a VPN doesn't make you safe.

[–] mycroft 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even the government has capitulated to the idea that devices themselves should be secure:

https://csrc.nist.gov/pubs/sp/800/207/final

If you can deal in government data on your laptop at a starbucks, we most certainly can work at home behind locked doors in our own offices with anything equivalent.

[–] couragethebravedog -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See my other comment. It's also about physical security, protecting access to your work laptop and protecting IP. That VPN is completely useless if someone can get into your home and access your device. It's way easier to get into someone's home than into a properly secured office.

[–] mycroft 1 points 1 year ago

No. Even that is incorrect.

You are 4 nodes deeper in OSS intel required, (isemployee->hasaccess?->homeaddress->break in)

I also know there are only 2 people with keys to my home, the hours of operation are limited, and there are no 3rd parties with unrestricted physical access (maintenance, physical security, janitorial services.)

The only difference in person provides is a record of access, cameras and access control systems etc.

My home also has this record of access and if requested can be provided. Most folks have egress cameras nowadays too.

load more comments (17 replies)
load more comments (21 replies)