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With more sober assessments of the course of the conflict on both sides of the Atlantic, we may hope for a prompt attempt at serious negotiation and, if fate is kind, an end to the hostilities.
If only this ultra-complex situation could be solved more easily. Wait, it can! Russia could just fuck off and send its soldiers home.
How come nobody thought of this? Brilliant! I guess the war is over then?
Your comment implied that Ukraine should just accept that Russia has conquered a fourth of its territory. That is as ridiculous and unlikely a scenario as Putin voluntarily leaving.
No such implication is there. All I said was serious negotiations, which given the state of facts entails the prospect of territorial concessions. I don't expect the negotiations would lead to a simple redrawing of the borders to take account of what each side materially holds at present. In fact, I don't have much of a preconceived idea of what such negotiations would be like other than I find it extremely unlikely that Crimea will return to Ukrainian control. That's the point of negotiation: finding out what the belligerents can live with.
Are you even reading your own comments? You are implying it right now.
I'm not. Crimea is not a fourth of Ukraine's territory (27000 km^2 out of 603000 km^2). That's about a 1/22nd part.