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Anything that you think is unpopular about balance, story, or just any changes you would like to see

Personally my biggest one might not even be controversial, but I don't like shield gating being used as a primary method of survivability and I don't like seeing people recommend it to new players when they reach the point where staying alive is a concern. I know it's "optimal" for some frames but just feels cheesy to me.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

My counter-take to yours = I find shield gating builds incredibly fun and love using/playing them. They bring together everything that is best about the game, combining the movement system and soft/hard crowd control into a speedy "can't touch this" playstyle

My otherwise hot take, is that in the current modern state of the game, the ever-enduring advice to newbies of "Get Rhino and Hek" is extremely boring, outdated, and unhelpful

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Zephyr+Xoris+kitgun might not be the fastest to get,but take you from deimos to basically SP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any recommendations on kitguns? I've only just made 1 after hundreds of hours, secondary rattleguts, and it seems ok

[–] Fred_Flinstone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Secondary Catchmoon is a pocket Arca Plasmor that force procs Impact (cough Hemorrage cough) and can take both the Primed Pistol Crit mods. Primary force procs Impact too, but is a Shotgun so can't take Internal Bleeding.

Primary Tombfinger is a Bramma if you squint really really hard (Charge up your shot to do a big AoE on impact)

If you've got access to the Deimos Kitguns, they're both actually nuts. Primary Vermisplicer is a Kuva Nukor/Tenet Cycron that has huge Slash weighting and innate Toxin, making Viral + Slash super easy to mod for and spray down a room with without trying to aim. Secondary Sporelacer is one of the few kitguns who's Riven dispo is significantly worse than its primary form, because it's that much more popular/busted. It blasts a huge spray of Toxin damage in an AoE, reminicient of how Kuva Zarr sprays a similar massive explosion.

TheKengineer has a phenominal video on Youtube about each Kitgun type, and how to best build it (Primary vs Secondary, which other parts to use, etc) if you want to find out more. These are just the ones I found myself enjoying the most.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Secondary Gaze is incredible too. It's a high crit heat ray with innate Radiation, so it legitimately just does everything (kills, stacks status with Encumber, pops bubbles). Except stack Cold on demos. It'll kill them fine though if you have a slow or a root elsewhere on your kit. Empirically I'd say it's about triple the DPS potential of the Tenet Cycron, although you lose being able to double up on Mag/Viral, and the effective range is 12m vs 30m if you're doing a Splatmaker build.

Still, it kills everything you point it at, and chains too. Absolutely incredible weapon. Basically the only secondary I use unless I'm running Hystrix for Disruption, or doing a theme set.

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