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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Could you link some stats for this?

My 8yo Outlander still has ~80% of original range on lithium batteries.

You might be one of those people keeping cars for 20 years, but majority swap cars much more frequently so lithium battery degradation is not really an issue.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah well then I hope I can replace the battery easily and for cheap when I buy the car second-hand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What major part of a modern ICE car can you replace easily and for cheap?

Cars are expensive and complicated as fuck. I don't like it, but that's just life in 2023.

[–] piranhaphish 2 points 1 year ago

For starters, you can replace the equivalent of the battery: fuel

Don't get me wrong; my next car will be an EV. But it is disingenuous to hand wave the reality that EV batteries are expensive and difficult to replace, somewhat negating the economical and environmental benefits.

I do all of my work on my own cars in my home shop, including things like dropping transmissions. This is why I'm able to keep cars for over 20 years. But there's no way I would be able to even start to replace an EV battery pack simply due to the weight.

But, for me anyway, that's not a compelling excuse not to get an EV. It's the way of the future and, by the sheer nature of getting one, I'm promoting their adoption, encouraging their innovation, and driving down the cost overall. So I look forward to it, even if there are some inconvenient truths.

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