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Because in most of the world conservative values have become “what’s best for me,” and progressive values have become “what’s best for us”
And that “they’re all the same” argument doesn’t really work well. Sure, at the base they’re the same because they preach values, but at least in the US only one side was trying real hard to undo medical protection for issues like abortion and banning books that they don’t want to have to explain to their kids.
What's best is subjective. Initiatives against coal, guns, religion, cars, etc.. aren't what's best for Conservates.
Liberals asserting their values are what's best for everyone doesn't make it so.
Is it subjective if data tends to say otherwise and it still gets ignored?
Also, I’m not saying liberal ideals are best for all, however they tend to take into consideration other groups that those rules would effect. And no, I’m not saying that’s true all the time either.
My point again is I’m only seeing one group actively fight against medical protections, banning books, and ignoring science in the name of corporate value.
Yes. Because you can argue things like reduced guns will lead to reduced deaths, and therefore it's an objective good, but that relies on neglecting things like cultural ties.
The stupid thing is the second you start talking about gun bans effecting Native hunting culture suddenly there's respect and understanding.
Sorry I'm not really explaining myself well but I gotta get back to work.
Yes but if the data also shows that a more thorough background check before allowing a person to purchase a gun results in lower deaths, shouldn’t that be considered too?
Data adds to support your argument. It doesn’t make the argument. It’s too easy to cherry pick information as you’ve shown.
Out of curiosity, how is the argument to ban guns different from the argument to ban access to fetal abortion practices?
The ban on guns is heralded as the beginning of the end if passed, but abortions seem to be the same unless they’re explicitly banned.
Well, of course, conservatives love children getting slaughtered in schools. That’s what’s best for them.
By that same logic liberals support drug dealing in schools.
Suuure, buddy, saaame logic. Now take your pills and off to bed.
Liberals push for weed legalization don't they? Then by the same logic they support dealing drugs to kids. You're wrong my dude.