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I know this isn't a convenient response, but Shaun has been leading some concentrated pushback against BBC's transphobia for like a year. Check out some of his recent videos for a detailed answer. https://youtube.com/@Shaun_vids
I kinda don't care enough to watch a whole YouTube video on it, to be honest.
It's a single article The lesbians who feel pressured to have sex and relationships with trans women, which was previously named "We're being pressured into sex by some trans women", that's being used as the brush to paint the entire BBC transphobic.
If people bothered to read the decision which led to the amended article, and the amended article itself, they would read:
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The article is a description of the problems within the queer community itself that seem to be experienced by a minority, brought upon by the extremes of another minority.
The reaction to call the BCC "transphobic" seems to me like a very twitter-esque reaction based in identity politics and hardline "if you're not with us, you're against us" tribalism.
I can appreciate wariness toward the kind of tribalism you describe in your last paragraph, but in this case the BBC has actually acted irresponsibly, and you quoted one of the big reasons why from their own article:
#1, Get the L Out is not "campaigning on lesbian issues," they're campaigning on anti-trans issues. Their stated aim is not to improve the social status and wellbeing of all lesbians or something, but rather to exclusively define lesbianism for all lesbians in such a way that excludes trans women, full stop. From their own website:
Because of this, #2, the article is in no way and never was "a description of the problems within the queer community" (Get the L Out makes this helpfully clear in that the tagline of their group is "Lesbian not Queer." The article is, in the most generous interpretation, a description of a radical trans-exclusionary group's grievances deliberately obscured to masquerade as "problems within the queer community."
And #3, at least most of the respondents (to my recollection and again, self-selected from a group by definition pre-disposed to this grievance) had never felt direct pressure from a trans woman for sex, but rather felt pressure or fear of condemnation due to their own discomfort with trans acceptance.
There are actually many other issues with the article, and the BBC has dragged an anchor in making any corrections. I don't think this discredits them as a news source in general, but this and other examples do show a pattern of transphobia in the organization at large.