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[–] realz 35 points 1 year ago (15 children)

What about aderall and vyvanse?

[–] brimnac 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m happy the other person hasn’t had issues, but my dentist called me to let me know they couldn’t put me under because of my prescription… which is Adderall and Vyvanse.

May have just been the Adderall, maybe it was both, but I don’t like going under anyway and was going to use local anesthesia, regardless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Adderall and Vyvanse are essentially the same drug. You're on both?

[–] TheTimeKnife 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are related drugs with similar profiles, but they are not the same drug. Vyvanse is Lisdexamfetamine, which is a pro-drug, that your body converts into dextroamphetamine. This can have a big impact on some people, either making the drugs more or less tolerable. Actual metabolic rates for drugs can be significantly different from person to person.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but Adderall is dextroamphetamine, the drug Vyvanse turns into.

I'm familiar with the pharmacology and their respective mechanisms, just stating that they're essentially the same drug

[–] TheTimeKnife 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are not the same drug, reread what I said. You can't be very familiar with pharmacology if you don't understand prodrugs. They turn into almost Adderall, which isn't straight dextroamphetamine. This changes how they effect the body, you can say "essentially the same" all you want, but it's not true when it comes to how they actually impact people. Differing metabolic rates due to naturally different levels of metabolizing enzymes causes prodrugs to have more variance in their peak blood serum levels, it causes later onset of effect and can cause large variance in duration of effect. This can be very helpful or even dangerous for some people. They are not perfectly interchangeable, even if most people find them pretty similar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you. Adderall (amphetamine + dextroamphetamine) gave me intolerable side-effects at the minimum effective dose for me. That's my doctor moved me to dextroamphetamine, which has been lovely. They are not the same.

[–] Dozzi92 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unrelated comment: I'm interested in following this exchange, but it's collapsed, dunno if the pic embeds here or what. I click, jerboa crashes, rinse and repeat. I dunno, just felt like talking about. Dunno if anyone else has had similar dysfunction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm on Connect not having a problem.

[–] TheTimeKnife 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just using Lemmy on Firefox mobile. Jerboa became too unstable for me and this so far has worked the best imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] brimnac 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup. Adderall alone was too much, Vyvanse alone was too little. A max dosage of one and a smidge if the other during the middle of the day if needed?

Just right.

Edit: to go with what the other person said - my metabolism is really fast and I typically run “hot.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Interesting approach. I myself use a non -stimulant (atomoxetine) daily with a supplement of Adderall as needed

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