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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Ouch! This looks painful. But Eh ... I dont care what they say, they decided to go there and die there, instead of pissing on their commander, dying for democracy instead and going anywhere else but in Ukraine to kill Ukrainians.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (13 children)

No fan of Russian occupation but I doubt dude volunteered. Probably was conscripted.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Conscripted = Defend your country. Not attack another country. Russia just pretends they're "defending motherland" so they find an excuse to """"conscript (untrained) Russians"""" to go to war and they advertise "it's good money" literally everywhere. There are posters everywhere about it and so much propaganda and pro-war ads.

In any case, there is ALWAYS a choice. Even killing your own commander, or protesting against your government is a choice. So many Russians have literally abandoned their positions because they do not believe in this war. That was a choice. You always have a choice. Especially them, so many of them. Yes, difficult ones, but let's not pretend that they "do not have a choice". They do, they always did.

You always have a choice, than go to a war where you win nothing but kill innocent Ukrainians, committing war crimes and invading other country "to defend yours" which is their propaganda prorogative.

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You know who "doesn't have a choice"? Ukrainians. They are there to defend their land. And the funny thing is, they do have a choice. They could just say "fuck it I won't do it". But they still stand. Even they, have a choice. And they chose to defend their land.

So let's not pretent that Russians, got conscripted thus they didn't have a choice. Everybody has a choice, and they have to live with it and die with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These conscripts if they try to surrender, can and have been executed by professional soldiers on the back line. Also they risk getting killed anyway trying to surrender to Ukrainian troops. It's not as simple as you make it seem.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Are you already trying to go full "Clean Wehrmacht" on the Russian army when they are still pillaging and raping everything on their path?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

These conscripts if they try to surrender, can and have been executed by professional soldiers on the back line. Also they risk getting killed anyway trying to surrender to Ukrainian troops. It’s not as simple as you make it seem.

"These conscripts get killed if they try to surrender" what a stupid excuse.

So lets go commit war crimes. Yes? Kill innocent people, rape people, throw missiles on innocent people. Yes? That's the way!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A good Russian soldier is either surrendered or dead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or in the freedom of Russia legion fighting for Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even those are very iffy. They are probably going to be an issue after the war.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I simultaneously hope not, but think you're right.

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