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Existence of the state is incompatible with Communism (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Tell that to the tankies. I'm tired of communism being associated with them.

I stick to the original plan: moneyless, classless, and STATE-less.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (16 children)

You don’t know your Marx? socialism-transition-communism

Marx, therefore, further refined the concept of a “transition society” and introduced the idea that the development of communist society would take place in two phases. In the first stage, “socialism” as he called it, the commune state was still necessary both to defeat all attempts at counter-revolution and to reconstruct the international economic system on an egalitarian and planned basis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Marx was too idealistic. He didn't account for what happens when you put people into power of this "dicatorship of the proletariat". Most people who get into power are not going to willingly give up power. You'll end up with self-proclaimed communist countries that are either stuck in this transition phase indefinitely, or end up abandoning it in favor of state capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Also, you talk a lot of shit about AES countries being forced to engage in capitalism for their survival for someone who also engages in capitalism for your survival. If you've got a better way, I'd love to see it.

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