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[–] solivine 13 points 2 years ago (33 children)

Can you explain why that's funny?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (24 children)

Not the person that made the joke, but…

Calling her a dishwasher is based on attitudes where women are the homeworkers. I see the joke as taking the piss out of people with that attitude, not the woman herself. We all know that she is a human being with thoughts and feelings like the rest of us and no one ever thought otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Satire requires a clarity of purpose and target lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize

Archie Bunker is a great example of satire that just reinforced prejudice among the people watching All In The Family who were already bigoted. They don’t see themselves or Archie as the joke. So ultimately you’re just giving air time to bigotry if your satire isn’t both scathing and clear.

[–] BraBraBra 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does it matter that the joke goes over those people's heads? The fact that they don't know they're being mocked makes it funnier.

[–] solivine 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes because then they feel confident with their views, after all it's being plastered in front of them so it must be okay right?

[–] BraBraBra 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Wether or not they get the joke doesn't change anything. Satire isn't going to stop a bigot from being a bigot. It's like those dumbass who are suddenly afraid of the okay sign. Like, they have you by the balls dude. They're bending you over and fucking you hard, and you're letting them. It's pointless. At some point you just need to say fuck it and live, because bigots are going to bigot no matter what who does. If a piece mocking them makes them comfortable enough to expose themselves, that's a good thing.

[–] solivine 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck bigots and live and... Checks notes make their jokes for them?

[–] BraBraBra 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know you know that's a beyond dishonest characterization of my point. Fuck off if you can't argue in good faith.

[–] solivine 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure that is in bad faith, it's the essence of what you said. I agree I probably went too far by using *checks notes*.

I'm really not sure how any of it justifies making a joke they would make, and saying it doesn't count cause you don't actually think that. Why say it?

I'll fuck off now since my opinion doesn't matter to you don't worry 🙂

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