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How does the great void of death not disturb you? (programming.dev)

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Or does it?

I know we were once nothing, but it is still terrifying and depressing to me to think about returning to this. In fact, as of late, I've been unable to not think about it: the loss of all experience and all memories of everything, forever. All the good times we had, and will have, with anyone or anything ever will totally annihilate into nothingness. All our efforts will amount to nothing because the thoughtless void is ultimately what awaits everything in the end.

The only argument against this would have to be supernatural, like another cause of the Big Bang or somehow proof of reincarnation, but if my consciousness won't exist for me to experience it, then what does it matter either way?

There is no comfort in Hell, either. The anvil of death weighing down, infinitely, on all values and passions is becoming unbearable for me, so I could really use any potentially helpful thoughts about this matter.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From an uncertain genesis to a certain end. You do not remember being born, but you know someday that you will die. This is awareness. And there is some comfort in this.

In the past you have remembrance or memory. The things that you were or the things that happened to you. In the future you anticipate what could come, or what your hopes are. You make plans. And that's fine. It's part of the human condition. But the now is the only thing that is actually happening.

Seize this moment. This moment is where you are. This moment is where you live. Being kind to yourself, being kind to others, being a person that others would wish to be, if they were examining your present person.

To build the world, or at least your small part of it, in the way that you see fit is all that our tiny hands can do. And there is a certain satisfaction in that. To live moment to moment. And to build your station. And to build others stations around you. To empower yourself and others. These are the things that build satisfaction. Gratification. These things are real. And these things do not require anything of the past or future.

Eventually you can stretch this now into the whole of your life. And it will provide wholeness that is not dictated by any sort of belief. For belief is not necessary. Let me repeat. You do not need to believe in anything to have wholeness and fulfillment in your life. But it certainly helps to be kind to others for its own sake. For that is the rule that others will measure you on as well.

I hope that helps.

PS. If you dig on this kind of thing, look into stoicism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

These are the things that build satisfaction. Gratification. These things are real.

But gratification is ultimately just a series of chemical reactions. So you're saying to merely dig into the chemicals? To be clear, I don't fault you if your answer is "Yes" and even think that that's the inevitable answer; it just seems less... valuable to me, if I couldn't find a more accurate adjective.

I don't think I'm looking for any particular belief but I guess I just wish that being kind to others (which, to clarify, I will almost certainly not just stop doing) mattered on a level more than just us wanting to do it for the chemicals, now that I've totally sunk into science's observations of the material world being all that there is. Since I no longer believe that there is a higher power, I've concluded that we just do things for the feels, good or bad. And that seems... lame(? Or something) to me, but it appears like there is no other way to go about it. Morals don't independently exist (there is no such objective thing as "justice," etc.) and are just guided by hormones and chemicals evoking sympathy based on our experiences and subjective thoughts of what justice, happiness, peace, etc. even mean.

And then our memories of it all will end anyway. What a waste and tragedy.

Sorry for being such a sour worm. I do appreciate your response but all this thought is leading me to "seize the moment" and therefore procrastinate on doing my taxes versus playing games, etc.