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Greetings!

A friend of mine wants to be more secure and private in light of recent events in the USA.

They originally told me they were going to use telegram, in which I explained how Telegram is considered compromised, and Signal is far more secure to use.

But they want more detailed explanations then what I provided verbally. Please help me explain things better to them! โœจ

I am going to forward this thread to them, so they can see all your responses! And if you can, please cite!

Thank you! โœจ

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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (9 children)

While there may be better options out there, from a purely security standpoint.

The real world, with non-tech people needs solutions that are easy, fast and as close to foolproof as possible.

I choose Signal, because my mum, my sisters and brothers (none of which are tech people) can all go to their app stores and install Signal, it works and it is easy. Signal is private BY DEFAULT, I don't have to remind them to turn on security for each chat, there is voice and video chat for individuals and groups, I can use it to send files. It is really good. Secure communication is their primary goal.

I have been using Signal since it was called TextSecure and I only had one contact using it.

Yes it sucked when they dropped SMS support; but these days about 98% of my messaging goes through Signal. Any SMS is usually from my doctor/dentist/bank.

I never really trusted Telegram, too many compromises. Secure communication is not their primary goal.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

All big 3, Signal Telegram SimpleX, are just go to app store install, and send invite to contacts. SimpleX gets framed as technical and dissuades new users from installing, while it's just as easy as the other 2.

[โ€“] 9tr6gyp3 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Signal tells me which contacts in my contacts list has Signal. It also alerts me when someone in my contacts installs Signal.

I believe Telegram also does that.

SimpleX does not.

[โ€“] Amaterasu 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Let me start saying that for convenience I adopted Signal. Now, this argument that it validates your contacts is actually something that isn't the best feature of Signal since it implies that it is requesting and having access to phone numbers.

I don't let my number available as my contact, I created the ID and I'm using it in case someone wants to connect with me but that probably isn't something that everyone is practicing and the fact that they retain my number it doesn't digest well.

I'm not sure how is SimpleX nowadays but features like stickers and even some emoticons or message reactions were not possible. Family members and friends would be very difficult to persuade to go back to a very simplistic communication app.

I always keep an eye in alternatives and if usability reaches a good point we may need to consider SimpleX as the messenger for the mainstream recommendation.

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