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Electric Vehicles

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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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[โ€“] Buffalox 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Only one of those is an actual EV, the others are different forms of hybrid.
Which leads me to another point. That the BEV term is also ridiculous, because it's the ONLY form of EV that is actually an EV, so the B is redundant.

This is marketing bullshit to mislead politicians to grant advantages to non EV cars. And it should be illegal to call a hybrid an EV, because it's not.
The worst is possibly the EREV which is not just misleading, but 100% misleading, as it's a car that drives 100% on gas only. It runs on an ICE engine that supplies continuous power. The electricity serves about the same function as a transmission does in an ICE car, transferring that power to the wheels. Who the hell would call a normal car a TRANSMISSION car? It's obviously not TRANSMISSION powered!!!

This pisses me off, it should not be legal to use such misleading terms. They are bundling apples and oranges and calling it the same.

In an ICE car EVERYTHING except the engine is electric, and it has a battery required to work. By the above standard, an ICE car is electric too.
So whats next? ICEV!! Which in fact all but the BEV in the picture you posted are.

PS:
I'm not scolding you, you did fine posting that accurate picture of the different terms. ๐Ÿฅฐ
I'm scolding the ones bundling all of the above together as if they somehow are the same thing, when clearly they are not.

[โ€“] madnificent 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To my understanding EREV, like the i3 pictured in models with the optional ICE, is mostly driven on battery power with the generator as a backup. It doesn't even provide full power when running on the generator whilst the battery is low. I don't know of examples of EREV without a battery or with a tiny battery which would be classified as EREV but would like to see examples. I know of some studies showing lowered fuel consumption but nothing for consumers.

I would understand your frustration towards EREV in the cases where it's mainly burning fuel as that's indeed not BEV at all.

[โ€“] Buffalox 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's true the gas engine isn't always on, but the EREV systems I know of, charge battery exclusively from the gas engine, not even a plugin option. This means an EREV at least CAN be 100% powered by gas, meaning it's more an ICE car than an EV.

[โ€“] madnificent 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Buffalox 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Sorry the concept I described is what was called Self charging EV, which especially Toyota pushed. EREV is very similar but not the same.
https://www.carwow.co.uk/hybrid-cars/self-charging

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