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[–] [email protected] 189 points 1 week ago (43 children)

Boots up gaming PC

Windows: "YOU IN DANGER ZONE! NEED WINDOWS 11! BUY NEW PC U SCRUB!!!111"

Load up Steam

Steam: "Hey, I see MS are being assholes - click here to install SteamOS instead"

Reboot PC

Millions of people never run windows again

I'm dreaming but that would be amazing. That would make this the year of the Linux desktop. C'mon GabeN, make it happen!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Things which are holding this back

  • Collaboration with OEMs to provide SteamOS OTTB (Lenovo is an exception)
  • Nvidia support. Most gamers use Nvidia GPU unfortunately
  • Certain industry-standard software which don't have a Linux port. PSA: Most people don't want to learn alt software. Johnny Mainstream is scared of new softwares. This cannot be changed
  • End-users suffer from choice paralysis and Linux offers endless choice. Maybe SteamOS can help.

What we know so far, SteamOS won't be a general purpose OS, so it might not support every random piece of h/w.

We might not have the year of the Linux Desktop, but we can expect 2025-2026 to be the year of the Linux handheld.

SRC: Linux fanboy for the last decade

[–] spongeborgcubepants 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nvidia works flawlessly in my system, didn't have to tweak anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let me tell you about my Nvidia experience.

I use an old Nvidia card and I'm using the proprietary drivers. My distro maintainer said they are switching over to the open source version (only supported for 20xx series and above). They said it will cause an issue. I updated my distro like usual. And boom! Can't boot anymore.

Since I'm more or less tech savvy, I could fix it but it took me few hours of my life to find the solution. I saw on reddit many people were having the same issue. If I constantly checked their Discord before every update, I could have avoided it but it's impossible for a layman.

A mainstream person won't be able to search & diagnose the problem. They will just think it's a Linux problem and give up. This is why it's impossible for Nvidia users to peacefully live with Linux. I know they are going to release a proper driver for Wayland but I am pretty sure that will take another 2-3 years. But till then, my stance remains the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are a few things in your anecdote that are particular to your case and which should be solvable by an installer that focuses on gpu detection; those are the things that valve will focus on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'm sure it's solvable but I call these example "death by a 1000 papercuts". I don't want absolute newbies to face these issues which will make them give up Linux forever.

I am not saying that Linux can't be mainstream. I'm saying Nvidia is one of the blockades for Linux becoming mainstream. I have bazzite on my Rog Ally and it's a fantastic experience, way better than windows, but it's because of AMD.

If AMD can get an equal footing in the GPU landscape (unlikely in the next 5 years), maybe things can change. I just hope Nvidia comes to their senses and properly support Wayland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Mine works fine, I knew nothing about linux and all I did was disable secureboot and copy paste some commands into the terminal. Now games that used to crash in windows don't and games that didn't run run. And yes spent tons of time scouting forums, going through dumb windows control panels and messing around in regedit to troubleshoot it without a solution.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right, so since you had that experience, everyone else must also have it?

[–] spongeborgcubepants 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Previous commenter cited Nvidia support as a problem, I gave my singular experience of it not being a problem.

Not sure what you are on about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Why did you feel compelled to give your anecdote, if not to undermine the idea that Nvidia support is not good?

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