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An extreme version of this is: What should the German health service do if someone says they are willing to donate a kidney as long as it doesn't go to a Jew?

On the one hand, nobody is forced to donate a kidney and by forbidding this we're making things worse for an innocent patient. On the other hand, it can be seen as the state sanctioning this kind of discrimination.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Women, no. Gingers, yes. Jews, no.

Being ginger is not a protected class, so there is no legal restriction on descriminating (so long as you don't successfully argue that gingers are a race, eg Scottish, but that's a stretch).

However morally no, you shouldn't have a say in it. Either way, usually you'll be dead when the decision is made. Maybe not with kidneys, although with kidneys you tend to know who you're giving it to - I don't think anyone just randomly donates a kidney, like you would give blood.

[–] night_of_knee 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don’t think anyone just randomly donates a kidney, like you would give blood

You would be wrong about that, in 2021 more than 450 people in the US anonymously donated a kidney to a non-familiy member (source). This is the scenario I'm asking about. One of the arguments given is that just as we allow monetary donations to specific groups of people, why not organs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the scenario I'm asking about.

Nobody knew your scenario before you explained it in detail. It is simply not happening.

Organisations don't want to be bothered with such restrictions from a donor. Their principles are: fair and anonymous. It is hard enough already this way.

[–] night_of_knee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody knew your scenario before you explained it in detail.

I thought that "altruistic organ donor" was a well understood concept, I was wrong.

It is simply not happening.

You're factually wrong on that aspect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I was wrong

So, what does it tell you?

You're factually wrong on that aspect.

Because of 450 cases in some foreign country? Don't be ridiculous.

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