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3rd party voters didn't swing a single swing state. That is a demonstrable fact. It's time to stop punching down.
Rofl, victim complex much? "Punching down" like you're some repressed minority for having shitty prioritization skills. Jfc
Third party voters are in fact a repressed minority
They are the minority
And their beliefs are repressed with constant anti-third party voting sentiments
So working to change this situation, 3rd parties contested every house and senate seat. Right?
What are you asking? If third party voters want to contest all congressional seats? Or if there is a third party candidate who contested congressional seats?
No matter what you are asking, what party are you asking about? 3rd party isn't a party itself, there are no general 3rd party beliefs and actions. Are you asking about the libertarian party, the largest third party by registered voters? Or the Green Party who had Jill Stein take the most 3rd party votes this year? Or some other party?
You want change. But a president alone cannot achieve that. A president needs house and senate support.
By building a mandate in these two chambers, 3rd party's can start to drive change. But only if they contest the seats.
You're right, but voting third-party for presidency and your own states' congressmen are not mutually exclusive. You may vote third-party for both.
Even without a supporting legislative branch, a third-party president may have influence through vetoes alone. Presidential vetoes on bills have historically had high success rates to get congressional bills denied. There is also always the off-chance that something like H.R.5140 gets passed, and a lot of politically relevant seats become available for a third-party president to assign bodies into without question. Not likely, but nothing will ever even have the chance to change if you continue to vote for the primary two parties
I agree with your premises.
But without contesting house and senate seats, we'll...
This couldn't have been cornier if you'd said it's harder to come out as conservative nowadays than as gay. Do better.
Say something of substance
"i'm oppressed because of my political opinions" grow the hell up. oppression is when people target you for something about yourself you can't change. oppression because of political views is just people telling you you're an asshole and you refusing to listen
Nobody said oppressed. Repressed. The word is repressed, as in all beliefs that don't fall in line with the two primary parties are repressed.
are your beliefs being repressed? or are people just telling you not to waste your vote and risk a trump victory?
no self respecting leftist will shut up about how you can't vote your way out of fascism and you need to be doing more. come on. do better.
Any self-respecting leftist can see that voting is a civic duty. If you can't even vote for your interests at the ballot box, you've failed democracy.
obviously you have to vote. but you can't just vote. and if you vote third party you might as well not have voted.
Right, because alternative candidates definitely aren't discriminated against as far as ballot access or getting into debates or...
did you even read my comment?
How long will y'all keep posting these counter-factual loser memes?
Dont you know?
The people who say they dont want to support genocide but actively choose the worst of the genocide-related options are the real victims here.
Did any Trump voters actually say "genocide"? The ones I've met call it "the war".