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ik that Biden isn't re-running, but Kamala is basically the same from the macro pov

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does not voting for Harris end the genocide?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, the right wing pro Zionist, "there are no red lines for Israel," candidate will not help to end the genocide randomly reversing course on her entire campaign.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, maybe I should've phrased my rhetorical question better or maybe that I'm too worn out is making me unable to read your comment as anything but a non-sequitor.

Does voting for Trump, voting third party, or abstaining help end the decades of ethnic cleansing that Israel has enacted, and continues to enact, with bipartisan US support?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, no, no, and no to voting for Harris in the same line of questioning.

However a vote for Harris or trump is consent for genocide on your behalf using your taxes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alas, they don't need or want consent. And there isn't consent based tax spending.

If you feel better by spoiling your ballot. Go ahead. I've done it plenty. But that sense of moral purity doesn't end the genocide either.

It's about changing the system, not the figurehead. And changing that system tends to be easier and go better when the figurehead is less likely to call the army to shoot on left wing protests early.

And the genocide isn't going to end tomorrow, so why throw other people under the bus?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sorry what world are you living in?

The VP for the Harris campaign LITERALLY called the military on left wing protestors as governor.

To your last point, if you believe your life continuing requires genocide, you need to die. Not a call for violence, but anyone that believes that is objectively a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

if you believe your life continuing requires genocide

You keep saying that, but I can't see anyone coming close to actually thinking or claiming it.

LGBTQI people don't need US imperialism or a campaign of eradication against peoples in the Middle East. We've been around since the start of human history, and will last longer than any nation state.

The point is is that since the genocide will be supported by the US regardless of the presidental figurehead, why not try to get one that won't also persecute migrants, women, and LGBTQI folks as well supporting the atrocisitea of Israel?

The VP for the Harris campaign LITERALLY called the military on left wing protestors as governor

You're right, he did. And that is bad. I still believe that Harris-Walz will be less quick to resort to calling in the military on Left Wing protests than Trump-Hillbilly Elegy Author will though.

But yes, none of what I say means I think that a Harris presidency will be good. Just that it will be less bad for some people and equally bad for others.