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    [โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Oracle are the VirtualBox people, right? I just installed that program today to try desktop Linux for the first time. I'm inferring from the comments under this post that Oracle apparently has some sort of negative reputation in the Linux community...? Frankly, I feel like a real troy-returning-with-pizza.jpeg right now.

    [โ€“] MajorHavoc 27 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Some context for you:

    Oracle has humorously called out RedHat for a recent broken promise to the open source community.

    But, Oracle is best known in the Open Source community for their purchase of Sun Microsystems resulting in Sun's massively successful open source database MySQL going from the #1 database in use in the world to not even cracking the top ten.

    Many factors contributed, but most notable was a sudden drop in servers available to serve the documentation and help pages for MySQL.

    Oracle (coincidentally?) makes a great deal of money from their closed source Oracle Database. An inferior (in my opinion) direct competitor to MySQL.

    It's entirely possible that Oracle did not buy Sun Microsystems with the sole intent to kill off the most popular open source database of all time.

    For those who agree that Oracle might be totally innocent in that, I agree it's possible - and I have a bridge I would like to sell.

    [โ€“] spacedancer 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Oracle does acquire competitors just to kill them off. The only way you survive an acquisition is if you are a product that they do not have yet, and that they need you more than you need them.

    [โ€“] RidcullyTheBrown 2 points 2 years ago

    but it doesnโ€™t change the fact that many organizations chose between those two databases plenty of times before Oracle acquired Sun.

    Sure, but the choice is: can we not use Oracle and if the answer is yes, then they won't.

    I understand what you're saying. I am a database engineer and have worked on several with the business model of taking customers away from Oracle/SQL server/DB2. But I wouldn't call our products competitors to those. Well, maybe SQL server but that's a different story. You can't really be competition if you can't serve the same customer base in terms of capabilities.

    Also, whenever Oracle or DB2 actually wanted to keep a customer, they just made a low enough offer that made them attractive (remember they don't have a list price) and we'd be left standing. In fact, I'm pretty sure we were used several times just to get those two to make a better offer...

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