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Today I had to downgrade fastapi from 0.114.0 to 0.112.4 to make a software work. And it just hit me - what if pip didn't support 0.112.4 anymore? We would lose a good piece of software just because of that.

Of course, we can "freeze" the packages into an executable that will run for as long as the OS supports it. Which is a lot longer. But the executable is closed source. We can't see the code that is run from an executable.

Therefore, there is a need for an alternative to which we still have access to the packages even after the program is built. That would make it safely unnecessary for pip to store all versions of all packages forever more.

Any ideas?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

what if pip didn’t support 0.112.4 anymore?

What do you mean by that? If new versions of Python didn't run that version of fastapi? If PyPI removed it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

If prior versions were not support by pip anymore, so yes, if it were removed. There are cases of packages not being supported by the platforms, aren't there? I've run into cases where the package was fully deprecated and not useable or downloadable anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What do you mean "not supported by the platforms"? And do you mean that or "removed"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I couldn't download it even if I wanted to. That's what I mean. It returns a message saying it isn't supported.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"It" being the PyPI server not finding it? Pip not supporting the API? Or it downloads correctly but the setup.py prints that error?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Anyway, more access to the open source packages can't be bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I think it said it's deprecated or something? I'm not sure, I just know I had problems downloading packages before.

I don't think it was setup.py . I think I tried to download it directly through pip install xx==0.4.0 or something (the version was required by the program) and it said the package doesn't exist.

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