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Once Russia have been pushed back sure, otherwise Ukraine is conceding territory and Putin wins. Which means he'll probably roll into another ex Soviet state for reasons
If* they are pushed back. The counteroffensive results have been underwhelming to say the least and itβs not looking likely that ukraine will take any territory back. Hence why peace talks should be pursued to stop thousands of russians and Ukrainians dying.
Underwhelming to fans of Hollywood movies perhaps. The Russians have laid millions of mines and entrenched. But, they don't have the troops to man a 600 mile front line and if Ukraine had better air support with F16s or Gripens, they'd be making better progress.
The main battle hasn't even begun yet.
Underwhelming to nato and america - the ones who fund ukraine