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[โ€“] paddirn 24 points 5 months ago (15 children)

The most interesting one here is equating fascists with antifascists because I feel like I kind of stray into that at times when antifascists get violent with fascists and punch a nazi protester or something. On the one hand, shouldn't we take the high road and practice non-violence, but on the other hand, nazis would have no problem killing the other side if they had control. It gets into the whole paradox of tolerance and how the "high road" just may not be possible with some people. Maybe punching nazis is the correct response?

I consider myself left-wing on most things, but there does seem to be an almost reflexive tendency on the left to try to shut down any criticism by assuming the worst in people whenever somebody says something even slightly critical or against the prevailing doctrine. If you don't sing the highest praises of some groups everytime and assume that they can never do wrong, you're automatically assumed to be an extreme right-wing/nazi/incel/homophobe/transphobe. You're either completely perfect or you're scum.

Part of it might be from dealing with right-wing propaganda campaigns online for the past 10 years or so, where you can't even have coherent arguments with right-wingers anymore, it's just not even worth your time to argue with them because they're ignoring logic anyways and they're not arguing in good faith, there's just no point most of the time.

[โ€“] TubularTittyFrog 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's more about whether you're authoritarian.

A lot of 'antifacists' i know are the first people to scream at others for 'being out of line' on a political issue. They claim to be anti-facist but practice politics like facists by trying to intimidate, harass, demean, and bully anyone who disagrees with them. Because they are the authority in their mind.

In my mind they act just like the fascist Trump people they claim to be against, they just use different sets of words when they are harassing/screaming/threatening people.

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