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How do you make someone understand that being drafted by force and ordered to invade another country is not a good thing? (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (11 children)

The “invasion” of Russia isn’t an invasion though. They have no desire (and no capability) to actually take land.

Russia propaganda be saying the same thing, for them it's a "special operation" and not an invasion. The conversation you are replying to makes reference to another thread in which "orders to invade russia" were mentioned.

Or course drafting is controversial but it’s much less so when the purpose is to protect your country and home compared to what Russia is doing with their drafts where the only purpose is to kill and invade Ukraine.

So let me ask you something: if you were born in russia and kazakistan declares war to russia would you be fine with you and your friends be drafted by force and sent to the front fighting under the command of putin and its mobsters? Perhaps not everyone is willing to die burned alive in a trench, be it for the russian or ukrainian government.

If Russia surrendered with reasonable terms, Ukraine would obviously exit Russia. They have no desire to keep it.

Ukrainian people perhaps no. Worldwide governments seem to have an interest in this war because they are doing everything to fuel it.

[–] rdri 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Worldwide governments seem to have an interest in this war because they are doing everything to fuel it.

Bingo. This nullifies your credibility. Either you're a troll or an idiot.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bingo. This nullifies your credibility. Either you’re a troll or an idiot.

That's simply what is happening look around you. Rulers and politicians profits in war, the military industry is booming, the cash is flowing. You think the really same people aiding israel in its genocide gives a fuck about peasants dying in a war?

https://www.rbth.com/defence/2016/01/25/russia-continues-to-buy-iveco-lmv-armored-cars-from-italy_562027

[–] rdri 2 points 5 months ago

Companies mentioned in an article you linked aren't getting the cash flow enough to warrant any improvement in related economies. I see Russian politicians profiting off various things during war but they were doing the same before.

So, short effects of the war on economies are not worth the long term effects of deaths of many consumers anywhere. Using the "war helps economy" argument while forgetting how the deaths and active aggression affect the world and lives, is a manipulation, which is also heavily used by those aggressors (Russia).

Telling Israel is doing a genocide without mentioning what hamas were doing to Israel is also a manipulation.

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