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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I have never understood this logic. If a lion eats a zebra, there's nothing wrong with it, but when a human eats a cow, they're a horrible person. (also I know that not all vegans think like this)

I personally believe there's nothing inherently wrong with eating meat, and instead the problem is how we treat the animals we eat and that we eat way too much meat, taking it for granted.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Arguing that something's okay because it's a natural behaviour is the naturalistic fallacy. The difference is that other species don't have any choice over how they live or even the mental capacity to think about the morality of their actions. Humans that are well-off and don't have medical conditions that clash with veganism do.

I used to agree with the second paragraph, but watching videos of pigs/cows/chickens being slaughtered changed my mind. Imo their prior treatment doesn't really negate what happens there- and even if it did, I couldn't use ideal farm conditions as a defense when the vast majority of meat I've been eating is raised under less ideal conditions.

(This isn't calling anyone who eats a burger satan, to be clear. Just trying to say my views in good faith.)

[–] graphite 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I used to agree with the second paragraph, but watching videos of pigs/cows/chickens being slaughtered changed my mind. Imo their prior treatment doesn't really negate what happens there- and even if it did, I couldn't use ideal farm conditions as a defense when the vast majority of meat I've been eating is raised under less ideal conditions.

Methods of slaughtering them are terrible and absolutely criminal.

One good thing PETA has done is raise awareness about how the meat industry treats its animals - I'll give them that, definitely.

PETA itself is an organization I place in the same category as a cult, though. Their own practices make the sincerity of their intentions almost blatantly questionable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed. Not the biggest fan of PETA; am very much a fan of animal welfare and rights being advocated for. CO2 'stunning' of pigs especially gets to me.

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