I get that building factories takes time, but I'm honestly wondering: Given that Russia right now is producing far more artillery shells than the rest of Europe (estimated ≈6x or something), which in turn produce more than the US, and NATO stockpiles are low due to donating to Ukraine: If Russia crosses the NATO border tomorrow, how quickly could Europe get its shell production up to say 3-5 million/year, which is what the current war makes it seem like we'll be needing? It honestly makes me a bit pessimistic to see that it takes us years to build a factory like this. I would like to hope that we're capable of building the tenfold of this in months if shit hits the fan...

[–] bouh 1 points 7 months ago

Ukraine wins when it has 1:3 ratio of artillery shells to Russia. Which means Russia needs more than three times more shells to make progress on the front. It would seem they're getting better now with jamming and drones, but I think they currently are around this ratio, and Russia is not doing much progress.

Nato has more and much more advanced stuff than Ukraine. So I don't know if 1:6 would be enough, but Europe has a lot of margin to increase its production and don't need so much more than that to stop Russia.

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