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Mac sales decline as owners keep devices for longer (www.theregister.com)
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[–] Alphane_Moon 7 points 4 months ago (6 children)

This contradict recent reports about Mac laptops seeing 20% YoY unit growth in 2024Q2 (Canalys, IDC) in the US.

Also surprised that a full third of users have a laptop that is less than 2 year old. I guess the switch to in-house silicon resulted in a big bump in Mac upgrades. It will be interesting to see how long people will stick with their new in-house silicon Macs.

[–] 9tr6gyp3 1 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Honestly, i bought into it once they moved to apple silicon. Who wouldn't want a processor that would get faster over time as apps move to support it?

[–] ANIMATEK 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because you are stuck with the hardware you bought! I have had Macs for a while but I think my next Laptop will be a Framework 😁

[–] 9tr6gyp3 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Does the Framework offer any ARM processors though? Or are they stuck on x86-64?

[–] Jesus_666 3 points 4 months ago

x86-64 for now, though a third-party RISC-V logic board has been announced. Even if Framework themselves never end up offering an ARM board there's nothing to keep someone else from doing so.

[–] Alphane_Moon 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What are your use cases for Windows on Arm? Or are you planning to run Linux?

[–] 9tr6gyp3 2 points 4 months ago

Since its a laptop, I personally look for a modern, efficient architecture that will have a long support cycle and has the capability of supporting a very strong OS that values my privacy and security. I typically just use a laptop for surfing the web and checking emails, so nothing intensive.

As far as OS choices:

Windows does not meet the privacy criteria for me, unfortunately.

ChromeOS also does not meet the privacy criteria.

Some linux distributions offer the necessary packages, but typically aren't configured by default. You have to go through a very thorough hardening process to set it up properly, but it is possible.

MacOS does meet these requirements, and I generally recommend macbooks to people who have my same use case.

In the case of Framework laptops, I would go the Linux route. Probably Arch Linux with a strong TPM + Secureboot and hardened unified kernel setup.

These are just my personal requirements, and I understand they may not be the same for others.

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