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Any Scottish users on board yet? I'm curious to discuss Scottish issues but maybe setting out my stall on a UK instance and community already poisons the conversation!

Anyway my question is whether the link between left leaning and progressive politics and Scottish independence can persist. My YES voting friends and relatives see indy as a way to see meaningful policy change because Westminster has failed to deliver progressive governments (not clear exactly how they square away the Corbyn near miss but assume here they view Blair/Starmer as "red tory"). But elsewhere in the west nationalism is closely tied to right wing economics and regressive social policy. With the rise of the Alba party are we seeing cracks in this leftist perception of indy or will it die down?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I’m Scottish, and my answer to your question would be yes. Scottish people tend to be more progressive than English, and one of the primary driving forces behind the Scottish independence movement is because the UK Parliament is considerably more conservative than Scottish people would like, and therefore it holds back progress.

I don’t think that support of Scottish independence automatically makes one a nationalist.

Westminster is obviously deeply flawed and I can’t see any way for it to change, it’s a two party system entirely captured by the ruling class and basically functions as some sort of democracy theatre. That’s why I support Scottish independence, because I would like to live in a more equitable society.

[–] Confuzzeled 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't agree more, I always hear people try to frame it as some sort of hatred for the English but I've never felt this way. I'm not nationalistic at all, not a flag waver for anybody but I'd like a government that acts in the interest of the public and not in their donors interests. We have a choice between the tories who have presided over a long period of austerity, stripping public services and labour who don't seem to know who they are anymore, any progressive policy seems to be walked back for fear of upsetting the right wing voters.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Agree, I didn't have high expectations for Starmer and he's falling short of them. Just wish we'd been given a chance to see a Corbyn government.

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