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Lefty Memes

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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, upvoting good contributions and downvoting those of low-quality!

Rules

0. Only post socialist memes That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.

2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such, as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries. That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).

4. No Bigotry. The only dangerous minority is the rich.

5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals. We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals. Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

7. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

(This is not a definitive list, the spirit of the other rules still counts! Eventual duplicates with other rules are for emphasis.)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I am asking for solutions, not some perfect leader. We have seen how leftist ideas of charismatic leaders go, and I don't want another Lenin, Stalin, or Kim Jong Un. The fact that you jump to the conclusion that solutions = charismatic leader tells me a lot about how you think about politics. Believe it or not not all ideas, systems, and solutions come from the same person. Science isn't a cult of Sir Isaac Newton so why should politics be this way? Heck why do we even have a single powerful position like President or Prime Minister or King?

Also no you haven't provided any solutions. All you have done is provide excuses as to why you do not need any. I am not asking for a magic bullet here. I understand that real life systems are necessarily complex and multi-faecited. That's why having a single leader or person in charge isn't a smart idea. You can't ask a single human to have a grasp on the whole of society and all its problems, performance metrics, or trade-offs.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

I haven't provided the solution. Get fucked. HUMANITY hasn't provided the solution, and it wont! Because if the goal is to have us both walk 100 miles that way and you won't get off your ass until you think of some shit way to do it, it doesn't matter if I ride a fucking dinosaur to Timbukto. Short of knocking you on your ass and carrying you there, I can do nothing for the cause.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Are you okay? How is this in anyway a response to what I have said. You are just being rude, and acting like a troll.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Your programming told you to exact a thought terminating quip because I challenged your paper thin grasp on reality. Next you will seek affirmation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Your programming told you to expect a thought terminating quip because I challenged your paper thin grasp on reality.

Not at all. You haven't demonstrated you have any grasp on reality. All you've proven is you aren't willing to behave rationally and are probably insane.

Next you will seek affirmation.

Why would I seek affirmation from someone who is nuts?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

and are probably insane.

Why would I seek affirmation from someone who is nuts?

A question directed a me...

Why do you even feel the need to respond?

Can't you see there is something wrong with you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe, but there is definitely something wrong with you lmao

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 1 points 3 days ago

Ha ha ha more thought terminating responses. You've certainly outwitted me. Please wait by the door for your prize.

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