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jwz: Mozilla is an advertising company now (www.jwz.org)

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Also from Jamie Zawinski yesterday: Mozilla's Original Sin

Some will tell you that Mozilla's worst decision was to accept funding from Google, and that may have been the first domino, but I hold that implementing DRM is what doomed them, as it led to their culture of capitulation. It demonstrated that their decisions were the decisions of a company shipping products, not those of a non-profit devoted to preserving the open web.

Those are different things and are very much in conflict. They picked one. They picked the wrong one.

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[–] [email protected] 208 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Still the best browser to support, still the best hope of defending open web standards from Google. Call me when they implement the ads in an onerous way.

[–] [email protected] 142 points 5 months ago (16 children)

Fucking finally. So many reactionary nerds here. Yes, it may turn to shit. It may not. The result is unknown. What I do know is Firefox has been my browser of choice for two whole decades. Chromium actively is killing adblockers. Firefox right now is not.

If something happens I'll make a switch. Right now, nothing has.

[–] tomalley8342 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If something happens I'll make a switch.

To what?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

part of the reason I haven't done anything right there. what is there to switch to? Chromium? Where they are actively killing adblockers?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why are you applying the Wait And See philosophy to Firefox but not to Chrome?

Seems a bit... Reactionary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because Chrome has already announced they are killing adblockers with manifest V3, and they have been very public about that for years.

Firefox just announced 2 weeks ago they are supporting manifest V2 & V3, and going on to support adblockers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Did they actually say that?

I think we need to Wait and See, to give the ad company the benefit of the doubt. And by "the ad company," I'll let you figure out whether I'm referring to Mozilla or Google.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The web dying (i mean web browsers, html, javascript, etc) wouldn't be such a bad thing imo.

Look at what's happened to nearly every static content site in the past few years, they've become nearly unusable.

News companies can try to convince ppl to use their apps, but everyone else will continue to use social media apps to get most of their news like they already do anyway. Ppl wanting static content can use the minimal protocols like gemini, gopher, or even a simple markdown web browser, which are already better than most news sites.

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