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[–] codyofficial 28 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I would wager that most of the “cyclists are so entitled” folks haven’t ridden a bike since they were children in large part because they know how scary it would be to bike on a stroad getting close passed by a bunch of people monitoring their phones first, their cars second, the road third, and you not at all.

For a large portion of people, it’s not a lack of understanding how harrowing the experience is—rather, they just want cyclists to suffer because of mob mentality. But I agree that every driver should have to experience the close pass as a cyclist so they can hopefully empathize a little more.

Kinda related: I think everyone should have to experience what it’s like to have an Uber driver with their hazards on parked in the middle of the road, blocking both directions of travel—but it’s okay because they’ll “only be a minute”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is there a place that belongs to drivers who realize all this, yet still get pissed off at bikes, but like, indirectly because their also angry that there isn't infrastructure in place that gets bikes the fuck out of my way?

I respect the grind, y'all, but you're right, I'm absolutely not gonna get in your stupid shoes and lycra just to experience the "pain" myself. I know it's dumb, but the "shared" roads piss me off too. I'll vote on somethin if you show me where.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can cycle in normal clothes and shoes, many people do.

Voting for better cycling infrastructure is usually on a very local level, so it's hard to say who to vote for without knowing where you're located.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, sorry for that sounding anti bike, I had just cracked into an afterwork drink and was a bit jolly.(The lycra comment was unnecessary blanket statement based on the locals in my experience)

I would be 100% cycler if I lived in a place of fully supplied infrastructure. So your point on safety being a barrier is true. I grew up on BMX and MTX in the desert so while bikes have been a major part of my upbringing I never really had to contend with roads.

Generally I just feel we all lose. Bikers don't feel safe and car drivers have an extra obstacle.

The real truth is I don't know why I ended up in this thread. I haven't got any stakes and just got lost.

But you guys keep doin the work, carcentric infrastructure is really annoying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As someone who uses a bicycle for commute and groceries, thank you for understanding. I just wear my usual clothing when I buy groceries or ride my bike to work. This is not a sport to me, I just like, that bicycles are faster than walking. 😊

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