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This is an official call to action for ALL Tucson residents - liberal or conservative.

WHEN:

  • Today - 4PM-7PM
  • Thursday (July 4th / Independence Day) - 4PM-7PM
  • Saturday - 2PM-8PM

WHERE:

  • Today - Sidewalk in front of Pima County Democratic Headquarters - (Move to Himmel Park if too crowded)
  • Thursday (July 4th / Independence Day) - Sidewalk in front of Pima County Democratic Headquarters - (Move to Himmel Park if too crowded)
  • Saturday - Himmel Park

ADDRESSES:

  • Pima County Democratic Campaign Headquarters - 2302 E Speedway Blvd Suite 106, Tucson, AZ 85719
  • Himmel Park - 1000 N Tucson Blvd, Tucson, AZ 85716

WHY:

"Looking beyond the fate of this particular prosecution, the long-term consequences of today’s decision are stark. The Court effectively creates a law-free zone around the President, upsetting the status quo that has existed since the Founding. This new official-acts immunity now “lies about like a loaded weapon” for any President that wishes to place his own interests, his own political survival, or his own financial gain, above the interests of the Nation. The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune. Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today. Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.

The majority’s single-minded fixation on the President’s need for boldness and dispatch ignores the countervailing need for accountability and restraint. The Framers were not so single-minded. In the Federalist Papers, after “endeavor[ing] to show” that the Executive designed by the Constitution “combines . . . all the requisites to energy,” Alexander Hamilton asked a separate, equally important question: “Does it also combine the requisites to safety, in a republican sense, a due dependence on the people, a due responsibility?” The Federalist No. 77, p. 507 (J. Harvard Li- brary ed. 2009). The answer then was yes, based in part upon the President’s vulnerability to “prosecution in the common course of law.” Ibid. The answer after today is no. Never in the history of our Republic has a President had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law. Moving forward, however, all former Presidents will be cloaked in such immunity. If the occupant of that office misuses official power for personal gain, the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop. With fear for our democracy, I dissent."

--Justice Sotomayor

WHAT TO BRING:

  • Water
  • Snacks
  • Sunscreen
  • Umbrellas or Raincoats (in case of rain)
  • Signs protesting the SC immunity decision
  • Yourself and perhaps a friend or 3.

WHAT NOT TO BRING:

  • Any signs that aren't protesting the SC immunity or other recent decision.
  • That means no protesting Biden as the candidate. Leave that for another day.
  • Weapons (improvised or otherwise)
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So, as y'all know. I made a call to action to protest the Supreme Court Ruling.

As part of this, I reached out to multiple local political organizations. The Pima County Democratic party was pretty excited to work with me. And we'll be having some mutual announcements soon about some neat things we're doing together.

However, contrasting this with the Tucson DSA is stark.

They absolutely refused any sort of solidarity because I had placed some initial rules about not protesting Bidens nomination right now. It's not that I don't believe in that cause (I do!), its that I want to keep the protests from falling to the same issues as Occupy by keeping a narrow focus with specific talking points.

They essentially refused to talk about it at all and walked away.

Folks, to build power, we have to work together. And if we assume everyone else is extremely rigid and walk away any time something even slightly challenges your personal truth, we're all worse for it. We must be open to the fact that compromise is possible

The Democratic Socialists of America will fail to build power. They are too extreme, too dogmatic, and are extremely hostile to even having conversations. They don't build much for anyone except themselves and rely on performance to communicate their virtue.

What was so hard about having a conversation with me on this? I wasn't stating these decisions were final in any way. Yet they weaponized one condition to cast this site as ideological enemies. I was totally down to be like "Well, how about we protest Joe Biden on X day?". Yet we couldn't even get that far because the Tucson DSA slammed the door in my face.

So yeah, I used to donate to them, I even used to like them. But they have failed as a political entity and will continue to fail because they would rather have virtue to signal than to actually build something in the community they are apart of.

I don't understand The Democratic Socialists of America's insistence on turning small disagreements into reasons to not work with allied parties. I formally denounce their performative bullshit and purity testing.

EDIT: Cooled a bit, and decided and use less expletives and refined the conclusion.

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Technically older than I'd like to post, but this information hasn't been posted before, and I was surprised to learn that, despite the lease cancellations that made the news, there's still a lot more alfalfa megafarms we need to deal with.

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Esta es una convocatoria oficial para TODOS los residentes de Tucson - liberales o conservadores.

CUÁNDO:

  • Hoy - 4PM-7PM
  • Jueves - 4PM-7PM
  • Sábado - 2PM-8PM

DÓNDE:

  • Hoy - Banqueta frente a la sede del Partido Demócrata del Condado de Pima - (Trasladarse al Parque Himmel si está muy concurrido)
  • Jueves - Banqueta frente a la sede del Partido Demócrata del Condado de Pima - (Trasladarse al Parque Himmel si está muy concurrido)
  • Sábado - Parque Himmel

DIRECCIONES:

  • Sede de Campaña del Partido Demócrata del Condado de Pima - 2302 E Speedway Blvd Suite 106, Tucson, AZ 85719
  • Parque Himmel - 1000 N Tucson Blvd, Tucson, AZ 85716

POR QUÉ:

"Más allá del destino de esta acusación en particular, las consecuencias a largo plazo de la decisión de hoy son graves. La Corte efectivamente crea una zona libre de leyes alrededor del Presidente, alterando el status quo que ha existido desde la Fundación. Esta nueva inmunidad por actos oficiales ahora 'yace como un arma cargada' para cualquier Presidente que desee poner sus propios intereses, su supervivencia política o su beneficio financiero por encima de los intereses de la Nación. El Presidente de los Estados Unidos es la persona más poderosa del país, y posiblemente del mundo. Cuando usa sus poderes oficiales de cualquier manera, según el razonamiento de la mayoría, ahora estará aislado de la persecución penal. ¿Ordena al Equipo 6 de los Navy Seals asesinar a un rival político? Inmune. ¿Organiza un golpe militar para aferrarse al poder? Inmune. ¿Acepta un soborno a cambio de un indulto? Inmune. Inmune, inmune, inmune. Dejen que el Presidente viole la ley, dejen que explote los atributos de su cargo para beneficio personal, dejen que use su poder oficial para fines malvados. Porque si supiera que algún día podría enfrentar responsabilidades por violar la ley, podría no ser tan audaz y valiente como nos gustaría que fuera. Ese es el mensaje de la mayoría hoy. Incluso si estos escenarios de pesadilla nunca se materializan, y ruego que nunca lo hagan, el daño ya está hecho. La relación entre el Presidente y el pueblo al que sirve ha cambiado irrevocablemente. En cada uso del poder oficial, el Presidente es ahora un rey por encima de la ley.

La fijación obstinada de la mayoría en la necesidad del Presidente de ser audaz y expedito ignora la necesidad contrapuesta de rendición de cuentas y restricción. Los Fundadores no eran tan obstinados. En los Documentos Federalistas, después de 'esforzarse por mostrar' que el Ejecutivo diseñado por la Constitución 'combina... todos los requisitos para la energía', Alexander Hamilton planteó una pregunta separada e igualmente importante: '¿Combina también los requisitos para la seguridad, en un sentido republicano, una debida dependencia del pueblo, una debida responsabilidad?' El Federalista No. 77, p. 507 (ed. J. Harvard Library 2009). La respuesta entonces era sí, basada en parte en la vulnerabilidad del Presidente a 'ser procesado en el curso común de la ley'. Ibíd. La respuesta después de hoy es no. Nunca en la historia de nuestra República un Presidente ha tenido razones para creer que sería inmune a un proceso penal si usara los atributos de su cargo para violar la ley penal. En adelante, sin embargo, todos los ex Presidentes estarán revestidos de tal inmunidad. Si el ocupante de ese cargo hace mal uso del poder oficial para beneficio personal, la ley penal que el resto de nosotros debe acatar no proporcionará un respaldo. Con temor por nuestra democracia, disiento."

--Jueza Sotomayor

QUÉ TRAER:

  • Agua
  • Bocadillos
  • Protector solar
  • Paraguas o impermeables (en caso de lluvia)
  • Carteles protestando contra la decisión de inmunidad de la Corte Suprema
  • A ti mismo y quizás a uno o tres amigos.

QUÉ NO TRAER:

  • Ningún cartel que no proteste contra la inmunidad de la Corte Suprema u otra decisión reciente.
  • Eso significa no protestar contra Biden como candidato. Deja eso para otro día.
  • Armas (improvisadas o de otro tipo)

Nota: Esta traducción al español fue creada con la asistencia de inteligencia artificial y puede contener errores. Por favor, reporte cualquier error de traducción a u/th3raid0r o [email protected].

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