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u/clock_age brought up the topic on the previous RD thread of getting more redditors to come here via pinned post at r/PH, which got me thinking. Maybe we should try revisiting the AMA commitments we received that never materialized, and get them to do it here on Lemmy now that they're less busy?
Leni Robredo, Ka Leody, Chel Diokno, and Risa Hontiveros were some of the ones who said "yes" but never got back to us after as the election got nearer. Their appearance here would not only attract redditors in droves but also put this place on the Lemmy map for being the first AMA (or "Lemmy Ask You" if you will).
Edit: LPUB = Lemmy Pick Ur Brain? lol
While I would love to have more people in here, I personally feel like it might be more important to establish and reinforce what kind of culture we want to foster here; now that we have a newer canvass. There are some aspects of reddit culture that has come to annoy me and it's grating how I'm seeing more of the same on some parts of Lemmy. I can't quite put it into words, but r/ph felt exhausting these past years.
I think there's already a budding culture here, born out of our weariness of what Reddit (and r/ph specifically) has become. However, since everyone of us has a slightly different idea what that culture is, it's a good idea to codify it.
If I must put it into words, I think it's like a combination of r/casualph and r/ph, perhaps with a heavier bias towards r/casualph from what I've observed. However, please take my words with a huge fistful of salt as I've never been a regular in r/casualph and have only been a lurker in r/ph.
would be good engagement, I agree. But how will we have the newcomers want to stay here?
That's a good point. We had like 100+ members posting each day in the first two weeks and once Reddit reopened, they hightailed it out of here.
I guess the "AMA" is to draw attention to the community (not only from redditors but media mileage considering that Esquire and other rags like to craft articles from those) and get newer people to see it first and be aware that it exists. We'll worry about them staying later. All I know is, more users means higher chances of posts and higher chances of engagement.
I don't think it's a good idea to worry about retention later. If people are serious about anything worth doing, there should be plans.
Maybe we should figure out how this will be different from r/ph. If it's just the same, what's the benefit of migrating when you can get the same stuff from r/ph? Unless there's a clear answer to that, it will be hard to attract others.
Aside from a pinned post there, those who are still active there might want to directly target members who can create content or encourage engagements here. Members with bigger following or influence that can help attract others are good starting points. If you create interesting contents for them here (not available there), they might join, but of course everyone is motivated differently so learning more about them is important before you can influence them.
How this community is envisioned to be will affect the plans for retention of members. Aside from interesting contents, there should a certain way to treat newcomers to encourage engagement. I read somewhere that the insensitivity of old members keeps new members away. A group effort on a how to behave is needed.
I think this is a complicated project that deserves its own thread. Since this is a community effort, we should hear from other members as well.
If you would allow me to pick your brain... How different or the same do you want this from r/ph? Is it just the number of members or engagement? How about the content? Do you miss insights from specific members?
Break it down, yo! (May sapi na naman ako.)
This place is kind of like r/PH when I first got there in 2016 but isn't as intimidating because there's a healthy balance of some r/CasualPH to not make it too serious or political. I like that.
More posts in the vein of why migrating abroad isn't as cracked up as everyone thinks and less about dramarama sa hapon like being your parent's insurance plan.
There have already been AMA communities here in Lemmy, but they're (not sure about their number, but I've seen at least one) truer to AMA's roots. I am not sure if there's already been a celebrity AMA in Lemmy though.
Having said that, there's also this problem of whether or not it's worth for the AMA guests to do an AMA here. I think their publicists/PR handlers would look at the engagement here and use that to decide if it's worthy of a slot in their schedule.
So, I think we end up with a chicken and egg problem. An AMA here would drive up engagement (new users and engagement), but in order for there to be an AMA here, there needs to be some amount of users and engagement to begin with.
Hopefully with the release of other polished apps, there'll be an influx of active users here?
As much as I love FOSS, I admit na hindi ganoon kaganda experience ko with other lemmy apps (until Sync) and that's why I don't login that much. A lot of redditors, I assume, browse through phones at kung hindi ganoon ka-smooth experience with the app they're using, matuturn-off talaga yung iba to use lemmy. On the other hand, we need more engagement here not just by posting but commenting and having a discussion as well.
Based on the data I've seen on r/Philippines (before I left the mod team), the majority of views are from mobile apps. The comments in [email protected]'s daily discussion thread is just a speck compared to what r/Philippines has.