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So my last post, my dad found his 3rd computer... he finally found his first computer!

Bonus: Back of the receipt has some additional purchases: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8ed5e2cb-3a29-4a8d-9f0f-347cc41771f2.jpeg

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's about 3800 bucks in today's money.
Pretty crazy how far things have come.

[–] Crack0n7uesday 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's like the newest MacBook pro, with the newest iPhone and Apple watch, and you might have to skip out on the Apple T.V.

[–] Psythik 3 points 11 months ago

Or a single gaming PC with a 4090.

[–] Psythik 2 points 11 months ago

I thought PCs were closer to $8000 in 1980s money. This is considably cheaper than I thought it was. My current PC cost more than $3800, thanks to out of control GPU pricing.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This dad was not a console peasant.

[–] preludeofme 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ha never owned one until my parents got me an XBox which was my only console. PC4Life

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The xbox is a pretty much a stripped down pc :p
Seems like you never really left pc

[–] thedeadwalking4242 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Runs around the same core os if you use windows too lol

[–] givesomefucks 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Everytime someone talks about old computers, it makes me miss the 90s "turbo button"

There were built in over clocks that could be activated while the computer was running.

So anytime you loaded up a game, you got to engage it with a physical button.

[–] PixxlMan 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think that's backwards - the turbo button (very unintuitively) actually slowed down the computer to allow backwards compatibility with older software and games!

Here's where I heard that, anyways: https://youtu.be/p2q02Bxtqds?si=f-inplPWdxMnwwu8

[–] kittyjynx 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A lot of games didn't work properly if turbo mode was engaged. They would run unplayably fast, have crazy game breaking visual glitches, or just crash. A few of my games had a splash screen reminding the user to turn off turbo mode. The turbo button was mainly there to speed up processing for mundane tasks like spreadsheets or for compiling code.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

It was basically to downclock the CPU because old computer games were built to run off of the speed of the CPU. When processors got faster those games scaled up their speed too. Normally you’d leave turbo on all the time except when playing those games. You turned it off and it would restrict the clock speed on the CPU.

[–] givesomefucks 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe I never noticed it as a kid?

But I never played PC games on any other computer, so I might have just been playing on hard mode that whole time.

I do specifically remember Street Fighter (2?) on PC being the hardest video game ever, so that would explain it.

[–] Trollception -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you around 40 years old? If not you probably never had a computer with a turbo button.

[–] givesomefucks 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah man, I googled something that was on old computers so I can pretend to be middle age for those sweet sweet up votes that aren't even tracked...

Surely that's the more obvious reason than people that old are on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

65MB HDD in '89? Some people had it all.

I had to make do with 20MB until 1992, when I got a 386/33MHz with 60MB HDD. And it was glorious.

[–] Crack0n7uesday 7 points 11 months ago

I got my first 1GB HDD in like 95 or 98 and thought I would never use close to that....fast forward to now and I'm filling up terra bytes for movies I watch maybe once a year and video games that sometimes I never even play.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Then Strike Commander came out the next year demanding nearly 40MB. xD

[–] Magister 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

oh yeah... 89/90... I remember, I wanted the 386 because 32bits and protected mode (windows 386 enhanced mode for the win!) so I bought something like your father but a 386/1MB/40MB and I upgraded to a VGA card and a 14" multisync VGA monitor (1024x768, at the time it was incredible). Cost of all this? $4000...

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Saw that 45/HR labor charge (I work in IT and my going rate [for the company, not my pay] is a little above that. No wonder he said he'd do it himself, at those rates

[–] Magister 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

oh I did everything myself too, bought all parts and assemble everything, always funny to plug everything, LED, turbo button, HDD led, etc.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What was the 'scariest' thing to do at the time? Like, before slipping into that sweet sweet AM5 chip with easy placement and locking, putting in the CPU and thermal pasting scared me and all my friends.

[–] Magister 2 points 11 months ago

The scariest part was inserting properly all the ISA cards, some were pretty hard to put and remove. 386 CPU was soldered on the MB, we cannot replace it :-/

But it was the same in 1990 that in 2023, install spacers on motherboard, screws, PSU with AT plug, insert all ISA cards, and wire all the small wires for led/button, IDE cable, floppy cable, power cable, etc, it was a nest inside :)

Then you powered on (a big red switch on the side that made a big CLUNK) and pray everything work!

After that it was configuring your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT to load driver etc. Playing with XMS, EMM386, HMA, to gain the smallest kilobyte you can from the first 640K, else some games weren't working.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your dad overpaid. I can get twice that speed now for the same amount ;)

[–] trigonated 6 points 11 months ago

Joking aside, a modern computer of that price is probably hundreds if not thousands of times faster than that PC. Pretty cool

[–] PeterPoopshit 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

$102 for an ega compatible graphics card in 1989 sounds like an absolute steal. So many computers had that terrible cga 4 color crap. Something that could output 16 color video was like having a 1080ti probably.

[–] FReddit 5 points 11 months ago

My first was in 1982.

No hard drive. Just two 5.25 floppies.

Came with floppies for Fortran and cobol.

[–] hereisoblivion 4 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

640K ought to have been enough for anybody, except this guy's dad apparently

[–] nezbyte 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if there are any similarities between the Cardiff Company and the fictional Cardiff Electric from Halt and Catch Fire.

[–] nukeworker10 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That is quite blatantly a take on Tandy, a leather company getting into the co.puter business.

[–] nezbyte 2 points 11 months ago

RIP RadioShack

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] nukeworker10 1 points 11 months ago

Did Compaq also start as an acquisition from a completely unrelated industry?Tandy was a leather goods company that purchased a hobby electronics chain, and started selling PC's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That was my thought too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

in late 1992 my first 'ibm' pc was a used one of about the same specs (286, 1mb ram, 30 and 20mb hdd, cdrom, evga). cost me $80

[–] jasparagus 2 points 11 months ago

This is so cool to see. Thank you for sharing!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Labor @ $45/hr

Damn, that sounds like a pretty sweet gig. $45 = $111.43 in today's money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I guess Dad built this computer himself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's probably shop rate. Like paying a mechanic. Shop rate for me is $160 but I don't get nearly that, also covers machines, rent, etc.