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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by solrize to c/android
 

Is it a rule imposed by the phone carriers, who want you to buy a different plan with no voice service if you have a tablet? It can't be the phone makers since the are so many. It can't be Android software licenses since Apple seems affected too. I'd be pretty interested in a tablet sized phone. But they seem to have maxed out in the current tall skinny format that is not really big enough for some things. Just wondering.

Edit: aha, I managed to get rid of the stupid photo. Thanks for the help.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have no clue why you had to include an image, but it appears you broke rule 6 in doing so.

I haven't owned many tablets so far, but can't you get some tablets with SIM-slots? What would prevent one from just using such a tablet as a phone?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They don't know how to change Voyagers default post type.

Yes, I have a tablet with a Sim. I use it frequently when I do field work and leave my phone at work. It looks stupid when I make a call though.

[–] solrize 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I managed to get rid of the photo and also found the post type tab when posting from voyager. Will remember it for next time.

[–] Reddy 2 points 11 months ago

I don't know Voyager but maybe you should try Eternity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because phones as in mobile phones should be pocketable, and a phone that large stops respecting the definition

[–] solrize -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No I don't think so. There are non pocketable phones out there, like this: https://www.unihertz.com/products/tank

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Ooooh, but it does fit in the tummy pocket of most hoodies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder why that non-pocketable phone isn’t more popular.

[–] solrize 1 points 11 months ago

It's popular enough that they now make a successor version with 5g, that is even less pocketable (thicker). So I still wonder what stops them from going to a bigger screen.

[–] sygnius 5 points 11 months ago

This is my assumption, the demand for people that want a 7" phone does not justify the cost of development and manufacturing. Yes, there will be people that would want it, but just like the iPhone Mini, the demand wasn't justified to continue producing the smaller phone.

Generally 6" to 6.5" seems to be the sweet spot that is large enough to use, and small enough that it fits in my pocket comfortably.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Basically, ~7cm width is about the limit it seems, because I assume manufacturers realised that's where most human hands are comfortable with holding a phone.

There were a few giant phones in the past, Sony Xperia's Ultra at 6.4 and the Xiaomi's Mi Max at 6.44" to 6.9". If given the 19:9 to 20:9 aspect ratios of today they'd be 7" phones (so again, don't compare phone sizes based solely on screen diagonal). As they're no longer made I assume they just didn't sell well enough.

[–] solrize 1 points 11 months ago

The phone that I use right now (Moto G Stylus) is about 15cm wide when I use it in landscape mode. It is perfectly usable that way, except that it is nowhere near tall enough.

Giant phones like 6.9" are not from the past, they are also in the present, like the "pro" versions of the Pixel and Iphone. Why are they almost 7" instead of actually reaching 7"? That's what I'm trying to understand. I'm very skeptical of the "they didn't sell well enough" theory, which sounds to me like system justification. It also doesn't explain why I can't buy a phone sim and put it into a tablet. So absent concrete evidence, it still sounds to me like carriers are getting in the way of larger phones. I do see though, that the Samsung Z Fold3 foldable has 7.6" diagonal when unfolded, so maybe that refutes the carrier theory.

I think people might be less concerned these days than before about pocketing or handholding the phone, since they use connected wearables like the Apple or Google watch for small screen functions like phone calls.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

My guess is people weren't buying large phones anymore. Those that want them are getting foldables. That being said you could get the Galaxy Tab A7, I think there is a version with a 4g modem. Also there are iPad mini models with 5g iirc.

[–] misophist 2 points 11 months ago

ZFold5 is 7.6" when opened.