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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That photo is from Helsinki. Around Eira I think?

[–] ToastyBanana 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was thinking Vallila but you're probably right!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are right. This is in Vallila, I tracked down the red building on the right, it is Mäkelänkatu 19.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, it's Vallila. Found an article where they had interviewed the photographer Ants Vahter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My US city put one in in downtown. It would be fine should they have their own lane that bypassed traffic, but no thoughts were given to it's actual implementation. They picked a loop path that goes from two lanes to one frequently. They simply placed the track on the road and kept car street parking on the other side. So you get the pleasure of waiting in traffic on the tram and the tram getting stuck because someone poorly parked their monster truck. Top that off with it was open 10am til 6pm when it first started, but downtown doesn't have much going on during the day. They've changed times now but it barely scratches the surface of use issues. As someone fully for public transportation, this has been so poorly done it's very frustrating. I do hope they have more fixes in the future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Most US cities are doing trams for tourist purposes not transport. The bus is better than a tram in almost all cases, it doesn't need track maintenance ,can go around obstacles, can change routes quickly if you didn't get it perfect in advance.

The disadvantage of a bus is they can hold 1)at most 100 people, and can't come more often than every 5 minutes. If you are running into that limit a tram might be right for you. (Even then think carefully , a subway might be better)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We have very similar trams here, they are quite neat when they travel in their regular 10 minute interval. But once they go into night mode e.g. every 30 minutes it makes them a lot less useful further outside of the city. But thats critique on a high level, they perform really well and in 95% of cases I don't have to check a timetable to catch one to work or uni.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I wish my city would have trams, they're one of the best means of transit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have fond memories of a couple of metro lines in Berlin that had part of their routes going thru parks without the usual road the metros go along. It always gave me a little feeling of magic when suddenly we were going thru beautiful nature instead of the Big City.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

... and you call these grassy trams despite them clearly driving on lichen...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@poVoq It really is Peak Urbanism! I can't stress enough how great it is to have a green track for trams. Here's an example:

Tram line in Liviu Rebreanu street, Bucharest, before modernizing:

A picture of the old tracks, next to the new tracks:

Other ones, with old tracks still intact:

Nowadays, after years of modernization works, it looks like this:

Google Maps Street View link from the area (just navigate ahead).

While the area is more congested indeed, trams run smoothly through, and drivers can no longer get in the way of trams unless they want to get stuck in the mud.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also check out Gothenburg/Göteborg in Sweden. There's some nice grassy tram tracks there too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looks like Helsinki trams.. some sections of their lines are quite beautiful in spring/summer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I always really liked those two weeks when I lived there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah looks like it was taken around Käpylä

[–] Yoz 0 points 1 year ago

Wtf! Where is this? China ?

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