this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2023
414 points (91.1% liked)

politics

19148 readers
3991 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 228 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This leaky headed geriatric piece of shit can go fuck himself

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Obama was mediocre but refreshing because he was actually present in many ways

[–] GladiusB 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if I would consider him mediocre. His policies may not have been the greatest. However the nation's esteem while he was in office was unparalleled. There are always blind spots, but he was well spoken and inspiring. No President or most of Congress has even come close in the past 30 years.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] kaffiene 33 points 11 months ago (4 children)

As a non American I thought he was better than most you've had since, maybe Carter

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, Obama was really popular on the international stage. But domestically, he was milquetoast at best. Still better than Biden by miles, but he was 100% a centrist who ran as a liberal. Hell, on the international stage, he was considered conservative. Because the USA’s political spectrum had always leaned pretty far right, so a moderate conservative seems liberal by comparison.

The issue is that the republicans adopted a party policy of “we don’t care what it is. If Obama wants it, we’ll oppose it.” Not because they were against whatever Obama’s policy was, but because they had spent so long vilifying him to their voter base. It was suddenly political suicide for a Republican to agree with Obama. After all, they had been telling their voters that Obama was a Muslim, a terrorist, a satanist, a communist, a socialist, unamerican, coming for your guns, and any other insults they could think up.

So when Obama won the election, they suddenly had to vehemently oppose a man who was… Slightly right of center? This meant the pendulum had to swing way past the moderate right and landed squarely in fascist territory.

If Obama had actually been any of the things they accused him of, they probably would’ve been more moderate when opposing him. But since he was a centrist, they suddenly had to pander to the racists, the misogynists, the xenophobes. Those groups had always been conservative… But Obama was the first time in a long time that conservatives started saying the quiet part out loud, and pandering directly to those groups.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Never ceases to amaze me how US politics is so full of incoherently babbling clowns.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Reddfugee42 194 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Things were fine before minorities started being able to express themselves without pushback." - old white guys

[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago

Exactly. When people say Obama hurt race relations it's because those white people hated seeing black people succeeding where only whites could, triggering them into hating them more.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Electing ~~Obama~~ Trump has 'taken us back 40 or 50 years on race relations'

fixed that for ya, Rudy

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Like, this is the laziest attempt at projecting I've seen in a while. It's like watching someone become more bigoted as their facilities deteriorate from dementia, and it's just sad to watch.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Rakonat 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 97 points 11 months ago

That's a funny way to say you hate black people, Rudy.

[–] Naja_Kaouthia 96 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What in the demented word salad hell did I just read?

[–] [email protected] 91 points 11 months ago (6 children)

"You think it's accidental; I know it's Marxist planned and executed over a long period," he claimed. "Open border is not coincidental. The open border comes right out of Karl Marx. It comes right out of [communist activist] Saul Alinsky, who, by the way, Saul Alinsky and his acolytes taught Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton."

This shit? The insane musings of high profile Republicans.

[–] BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Who the eff are all these marxists, communists, socialists, etc., wielding all this incredible power in the US and how do they stay so hidden? Deep state? But isn't the deep state mostly rich white guys pulling the strings?

[–] Jimmyeatsausage 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The real communism was the capitalism we made on the way...or some shit

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

They're so crafty that even the policy they're passing is pure neoliberal dreck that's to the right of Reagan. Nobody would suspect a thing!

[–] dragontamer 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes. The communists were not known for building walls in Berlin.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lead poisoning is a huge part of why the 60+ age bracket is acting so erratically now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, famed communist Obama, whose biggest accomplishment was shoveling huge amounts of cash to the health insurance industry in exchange for tiny concessions on the margins.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] eran_morad 91 points 11 months ago

These cunts really lost their shit when we elected a black guy.

[–] jordanlund 70 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, because all those tiki torch marches happened under Obama? Hmmm... good people on both sides? Well all the Black Lives Matters protests... no? Not Obama either?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago

See, if you just hadn't scared those white people by electing a black president, things would've been so much better!

[–] schema 28 points 11 months ago

It's basic abuser mentality. "Because a black person has dared to become president, you forced us to be more racist and divisive."

[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Does he think Obama is still the president?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] hperrin 62 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think it’s time we send Rudy to live on a farm upstate.

[–] TacoNissan 16 points 11 months ago

I live upstate and we don't want him up here

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Burn_The_Right 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thats not fair. Theres more to conservatism than Racism.

Theres also the misogyny, and xenophobia, hatred for the lower classes.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even from a right/conservative view of things this makes no sense. Obama was a fucking legal scholar. He'd learned CRT in the context of law and brought it to bear not at all in a social context.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ook_the_librarian 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Maybe it took Guiliani back 40 years. He was at about 1920 before but he seems closer to 1880 now.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Can he fall down an escalator already? Fucksake.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] FrankTheHealer 41 points 11 months ago

This feels like an onion article

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's as much a history buff as a computer security expert

[–] 0110010001100010 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought crazy pillow dude was the cybersecurity expert. He hosted those cyber symposiums after all. Clearly he must know something us lowly IT folks don't.

[–] SkyezOpen 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Speaking of which, did he ever pay out that 5 million dollar prize for the guy who proved his election interference data was literally garbage files?

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] CharlesDarwin 34 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, because all the creepy weirdos on the right absolutely FREAKED OUT that a "Kenyan usurper" was selected by We, The People to run the country.

Remember how ecstatic all these freaks were when OJ won just the EC? The memes of showing how OJ - King of the Birthers - was eclipsing Obama?

I'm sure none of those feelz from the right had anything to do with racism.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] mriguy 32 points 11 months ago

“We would have all stayed under our rocks if YOU hadn’t forced us to freak out by electing a black guy”.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The right-wing reactionary response to Obama's election set race relations back.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] joel_feila 29 points 11 months ago (10 children)

So his racisism is Obama's fault.

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why does Rudy think he has an opinion worth listening to on this matter?

Or anything else, really.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Hey Rawstory, less reporting on what they say, more reporting on what they did, thanks.

[–] BeautifulMind 18 points 11 months ago

Translation: when we elected Obama it upset the racists so badly they had a great big meltdown about it

[–] ilinamorato 18 points 11 months ago

Wait...it was just about ten years ago that they were saying racism was over because we had a Black president. Make up your mind, Rudolph.

load more comments
view more: next ›