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Beehaw admin is such a fucking liar wtf (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Some of the instances that we have chosen to defederate with have explicit political stances and ideologies. Their political stance and ideology had nothing to do with the choice to defederate. The choice to defederate was based on the amount of hate speech present on the instance and/or explicitly endorsing it.

What fucking hate speech, you weasly, lying shitlib. Your kind cheers on Russian deaths, calling them “orcs”, then you have the audacity to accuse us of hate speech? Go on, make more orientalist posts about China, and then come back and lecture us on hate speech.

The only “hate speech” I have is the hate for your dogshit, genocidal politics.

Our instance explicitly disallows and bans bigotry, and he’s going around posting this shit

Edit: And thinking about it more, the admins are basically agreeing going "fuck the devs we would switch off if we could", after everything the devs did to placate them, offering to pay for server hosting, putting them and not us on the reccomended server list, explicitly pinning posts asking people to go else where, and they're still shitting on them for "muh evil tankies!!!". The devs should have never listened to these whining liberals, and I think should maybe defederate from beehaw themselves like holy fuck you can't trust liberals for anything

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I created my first account on beehaw, but when i realized that they blocked this instance I created a lemmy.ml account. I engaged with someone on that post who was surprised that hate speech was being thrown around here. I said "it's because theyre marxist leninist, go look for yourself" and they were so confused because there was no hate speech to be found. Essentially they were like "um I don't agree with MLs on a lot of things, but they aren't nazis. So what's the issue?" So I'm positive that there are people being turned away who otherwise would want to interact with y'all.

It's pretty fucked that they are equating discourse here to hate speech because of course people aren't going to do their own investigating. They will just assume that yall are planning the next white uprising and flinging the F slur around.

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[–] oracuda 5 points 1 year ago

Beehaw is a massive fucking joke.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

[dismissive masturbatory hand gesture] the actually vaguely progressive people that got conned into going there instead of an actually decent lefty instance are in for a fun surprise in a couple months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From what I've heard, that admin and others on that instance used to be active users on an invitation-only, centralized reddit clone. I don't understand why they didn't build their site on postmill or some other unfederated platform if their intention was to defederate from the vast majority of the network when it started gaining traction.

EDIT: For the downvoter: to be clear, I'm not criticizing Beehaw for their decision - I'm criticizing the timing for their decision. While it's better for them to defederate now before the real tidal wave of refugees arrives, they still waited until a lot of users from other instances had discovered their communities & had started relying on them. So to defederate when they did is at worst callous and at best an indication that their admins lack foresight.

It's fine that they want a walled garden, especially when that's the type of community their admins are used to moderating. I might not understand it (leftypol represent!), but experience tells me that there's always going to be a demand for echo chambers no matter the platform and that it's useless to try and fight that.

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