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Looking forward to buying the robot I can send to the movie theater to watch the AI-generated movie for me and come back and tell me what happened.

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[–] rtxn 148 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then it can watch the fucking ads for me.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Soon enough, the AI will be able to kill us and live our lives for us.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope it enjoys its existential despair.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If its really intelligent it will know better and just leave us to suffer

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, first they rewarded YouTubers for wasting ever more of your time, making you watch as many ads as possible, and now they're building a tool to sort through that whole crap content?

[–] Geek_King 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're not wrong, even the way the YouTube algorithm works pushes video creators to follow certain things to ensure they're videos get suggested by the algorithm. Shit like, someone's video is about making some crazy RC helicopter, I'd like to watch the video in chronological order, with discussion, planning, the build, then see the helicopter. But nearly every single YouTube video like this starts with 5-10 second clip of the end product, kinda removes the build up.

So years of that bullshit has forced video makers to do insanely fast jump cuts during dialog, because we can't have a normal human amount of pauses in speech, and all these other trends which have objectively made videos worse. On top of that, the inclusion of "video sponsors" so we can baked in advertising, and sometimes to the tune of quite a few minutes long. Algorithms seem like they make a lot of difference services objectively worse under the guise of improving the users experience.

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 year ago

I just don't watch videos with unnecessary jump cuts. They annoy me too much. If you can't do it all in one take, at least get a second camera.

[–] CleoTheWizard 3 points 1 year ago

To play devils advocate, a lot of what you described is just about the hustle culture of YouTubers and how the platform has evolved aside in its meta. People figured out that using an essay-like format and having a video hook gets more views. And that slow videos with less information get less views. All of that would’ve happened regardless of the company.

There’s also a hustle culture where these fun side projects are now jobs because YouTube pays their creators. That’s led to some good content, but also a mountain of trash. All of that happens regardless as long as YouTube is paying anybody.

The algorithm absolutely does a lot but the algorithm would exist regardless. All of this is inevitable because it’s how humans work. Also a lot of the content you ask for still exists, you just have to sift to find it.

YouTube is an interesting case because most of what they do wrong has little to do with algorithm and all to do with DMCA protections and poor discoverability (separate algorithms).

[–] frunch 8 points 1 year ago

Thankfully... But ads will be interlaced seamlessly into the resulting summary.

[–] lapommedeterre 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But can it watch videos with me? 🥺

[–] Yoz 3 points 1 year ago

and if they make it beautiful , make it wear a lot of makeup, skimpy clothes and heels then fuck yeaahhh I am down to netflix and chill

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's cool and all but they could've just made sure the regular-ass search indexer was consistently aware of the video transcripts.

Many times I've searched for a video I'd seen using a specific quote I remembered from the vid... And got nothing, and had to painstakingly find the video manually.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is what pisses me off about the modern internet more than anything else. Most things don't need to be a video. Written prose works so much better for most information content. This is how the internet used to be before YouTube.

[–] MycoBro 2 points 1 year ago

My man. Thank you. I have been screaming at my wife about this for years as if it was her fault. I’m really starting to think it’s because a lot of people are low key border line illiterate.

[–] LazaroFilm 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can it block the ads on YouTube?

[–] FlyingSquid 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, you have to read a text summary of at least two ads before it gives you a text summary of the video. And the text summary of the video is broken up with other text summaries of ads.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Basketball player and genie, Shaquille O'Neil is holding a dominos pizza box and asking if you'd like to Shaqeronni your evening."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re joking but that’s possibly how this is gonna be monitized in the future. In the end it might just look like current day news articles with ads interspliced throughout.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So basically we're back to banner ads from the 1990s internet? Or even further back, newspaper ads?

[–] PlantJam 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ublock Origin can. It's available for Firefox on Android. No similar options for iOS or TV apps that I know of, though.

[–] LazaroFilm 2 points 1 year ago

I use UYouPlusExtra on iOS. Side loaded with SideStore (no jailbreak)

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[–] Fake4000 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Would be great if it can watch a video and generate timestamps for me to skip to specific sections.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But does it still watch the ads, or does it use adblocking?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The question to rule them all

[–] Z4rK 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just use https://www.summarize.tech/, and if the transcript is too long, send it to a summarize like Kagi.

[–] Viking_Hippie 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yo dawg.. I heard you liked summaries so I summarized your summary.

[–] RGB3x3 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's going to devolve into the ai telling you "good," "bad," "very good," or "very bad" for everything and you won't even need to watch it.

[–] frunch 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Holy shit, this is a hilarious idea but also terrifying.

[–] slayback 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kagi can summarize YouTube videos directly.

[–] Z4rK 2 points 1 year ago

Oh cool, just tested with !sumk on random YouTube share link in Safari on iOS and it worked like a champ.

Even when I asked about how to do this in the Kagi discord channel I didn’t get this answer, so thanks! To everyone else, check out Kagi, it’s awesome :)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

All this will do is piss off creators due to monetization reasons, lead them to complain against YouTube, forcing YouTube to change their monetization process, which will lead to again changing the way videos are made.

And at the end, they will find a way to again shove ads in your face more efficiently.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This will be handy whenever someone responds to a comment with "this link proves my point!" And a link to an hour-long ramble.

[–] alienanimals 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone can already summarize YouTube videos: https://www.summarize.tech/

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[–] RoverRacecar 5 points 1 year ago

Video Essayists may get destroyed from this.

[–] cheese_greater 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I wonder if Bard can plain watch you. Like you consent to have Bard use your webcam the entirety of the time its open and even if you detoggle or choose to disable and de-permission it explicitly. What a time to be ~~watched and tracked perpetually~~ alive 🧞‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On that note, can phones bring proper borders back? Damn hole-punch cameras make it unnecessearly hard to cover them up

[–] cheese_greater 3 points 1 year ago

Bezel = Life

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

android now lets you disable the camera on an OS level. Not quite as good as hardware, but close.

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[–] NOT_RICK 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cheese_greater 3 points 1 year ago

Talk dirty to me, Big Brother

[–] atrielienz 4 points 1 year ago

I think Google and other companies would like that. Particularly to watch your eyes and see what draws your attention on the page. For the ads, obviously. Because we live in the worst timeline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why webcams have a little light next to them to indicate that they are active. If it's on when it's not supposed to you know you've got a problem to fix.

[–] cheese_greater 3 points 1 year ago

I still cover 'em. Just need one for iPhone 🤔

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