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  • Global surge in antisemitic incidents following the conflict between Hamas and Israel, affecting Jewish communities in various countries.
  • Antisemitic acts range from verbal abuse to physical assaults, often justified by anger over the Gaza conflict.
  • In areas like the U.S., Britain, France, Germany, and South Africa, antisemitic incidents have increased several hundred percent compared to the same period last year.
  • Official responses vary, with Western authorities generally quick to support Jewish communities, while some countries like China have not taken steps to curtail antisemitic content online.

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What the fuck is with these comments.

Jewish people outside of Israel (citizens of other countries) are not equal to the Israeli government. They have no say and no control over what the Israeli government does. They are not connected.

Jewish 20 year olds going to college in the USA do not deserve to be attacked for simply...being Jewish (see Tulane University events). And so on.

Attacking Jewish people worldwide for the actions of the Israeli government is pure antisemitism, plain and simple, and needs to be called out and condemned.

[–] canthidium 53 points 1 year ago

People just love to have a reason to hate. Just like when COVID started and Asians were getting attacked all over despite having zero connection to China.

[–] slaacaa 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

A lot of people just seem to hate jews, and now the masks have come off (again).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why though? Why is anti-Semitism even a thing?

[–] magikarpet 19 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Religion, plus they were an easy minority to scapegoat historically.

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[–] FanciestPants 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like there needs to be more discussion of how people can be anti-Zionist without being antisemitic. There are elements of many faiths that people can object to without being considered antagonistic of that faith. People might not hate all people who are Jewish, but also might not be too enthusiastic about the Israeli State and all of its actions, which does not make them antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

There's also lack of understanding that when saying "anti-Zionist" you're calling for the non-existence of the state of Israel, not for Israel to not be an apartheid state. Rabin was a Labour Zionist: He would have liked to live in peace and social democracy with Palestinians. He was killed by a Religious Zionist, people who have a long history massacring Palestinians, the kind of people who prop up Netanyahu and settle the West Bank. On the flipside there's plenty of anti-Zionist Jews around, for secular or religious reasons ("trying to force the third temple prophecy"). Broadly speaking "Zionist" simply means "patriot of Israel" and there's also plenty of those out there helping Palestinians with their olive harvest so that settlers don't come over and gun them down (because shooting Israelis, even leftists, would have consequences).

The Israeli right-wing of course doesn't care, if a Jew says something they'd accuse others of antisemitism for they're switching to "self-hating Jew".

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Conflating the Israeli government, and the Israeli military, with the Jewish ethnicity, and the Jewish religion, is proving to be bad for overall PR when the government, and the military, are doing things that are vastly unpopular globally. Like apartheid

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

"Bad PR" doesn't even begin to cover it. Netanyahu never misses an opportunity to claim he represents all Jews, so of course when his government commits atrocities, a lot a gullible people are gonna blame Jews in general. It's so predictable I strongly suspect it's one of his goals, because there's nothing better for a far-right populist's political career than convincing his supporters they're under attack, and it's especially easy when they actually are under attack. All he had to do was paint a target on every Jew in the world, which is clearly a small price in his mind.

I hope one day he's remembered alongside Putin as one of the worst villains of the 21st century.

[–] Aceticon 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Considering the value that the government of Israel has by action showed it places on, not only the lives of human beings who are Palestinian, but even on the lives of the human beings who are Israeli and were kidnapped by Hamas, I very much doubt they lose any sleep when Jews are victims of anti-semitism abroad because Israel has purposefully conflated itself with the entire Jewish Religion (in order to hide behind it whilst commiting the most despicable of acts) and lots of people believe it.

They probably just see it as a way to further exploit that connection betwee Judaism and Israel that they've cultivated and spin the plight of those Jews to further portray the nation of Israel as a victim: in other words the State of Israel actually gains whenever a Jew out there is victimized in response to the actions of the State of Israel because the perpetrator believed the State of Israel's own deceitful portrayal of itself as being the same as all members of the Jewish Religion.

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[–] Donjuanme 50 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Criticalness of Israel is not hatred of Jews. Any attack on someone based on their nationality should be a hate crime (including illegal immigrants at the USA Southern border). Walking past a protest and being offended by their message isn't being attacked. Israel is way over the line and has historically been looking for reasons to absorb the Gaza strip into their control.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Did you read the article? First paragraph: " In Los Angeles, a man screaming "kill Jews" attempts to break into a family's home. In London, girls in a playground are told they are "stinking Jews" and should stay off the slide. In China, posts likening Jews to parasites, vampires or snakes proliferate on social media, attracting thousands of "likes". "

This is not Jewish people being offended about anti-Israeli protests. This is Jewish people being the targets of blatant, direct antisemitism because they simply exist as Jews.

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[–] obinice 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't get why people hate that particular religion so much.

Me, I would do away with all religions, I think they're all nonsense invented to control people or as a way to escape from reality, but that doesn't mean I'd ever hate a religion or go to wild lengths to genocide it's followers.

People who think there's a magical man in the sky are a bit batty, but people who persecute others just for believing in magical sky men are truly off their rockers.

[–] 10_dollar_banana 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My experience is that the hate is for the ethnic group, not necessarily the religion.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A lot of it is an instinctual response.

Hearing 'jews this, jews that' since birth causes people to want to 'fit in' and go along with what everyone else is doing even if they don't understand it.

I was surprised by how much anti-Semitism existed when I went to high school, because I never experienced it before outside of South Park. For everyone else, it was just normal and understood (even if they didn't support it.) It really cemented the idea in my mind that most people do things without thinking just to fit in with others.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A lot of people who are ethnically Jewish and identify as Jews don't practice or believe in Judaism.

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 year ago

I come from Jewish parents. I'm an atheist, but I still consider myself Jewish.

My daughter is half-Jewish and I have advised her to tell no one in school because she will get treated differently, especially since this is Indiana.

One year in elementary school, one of her teachers assumed she was Jewish after meeting me (I look as stereotypically Jewish as Woody Allen) and singled her out for it multiple times. She thought she was singling her out for it in a good way, to teach the other kids something for example, but it just made my daughter feel embarrassed and othered.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It seems pretty clear a large percentage of the human race associates the actions of any members within an ethnic group as an action by the entire ethnic group. Not 100% culpable, but maybe 60% to 30% depending on age and gender.

[–] Iceblade02 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, people don't seem to realize that culture in Western countries generally is less racist than the global norm (and there is quite a bit of prejudice in Western countries!)

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[–] febra 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Antisemitism sucks. So does relentless zionism. Stop accusing all jewish people of being militaristic zionists. Stop comparing Israel to jews. Israel doesn't represent all jews. Saudi Arabia doesn't represent all muslims. Russia doesn't represent all orthodox christians. Being anti Israel doesn't make you antisemitic. Being antisemitic doesn't make you anti Israel. Don't confuse the two. One can cherish jewish people, culture, history and be anti Israel to whatever extent. I'm partly jewish and don't support Israel for example.

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[–] AllonzeeLV 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is yet another reason why why ANY theocracy, of any denomination, is incompatible with modernity.

Not only does it limit the citizenry's representation in terms of beliefs and cultural shifts incompatible with the faith within, it creates a common enemy for idiotic, ancient deity dick measuring squabbles from the outside.

I respect a person's right to pray to whatever pokemon they want. Charizard, Yahweh, Mr. Mime, Allah, whoever speaks to your soul or whatever. I don't respect any person's right to use the pokemon they pray to as a rational to limit the rights of anyone else for any reason, ok you super serious Pokemon Masters?

Israel isn't some great line of defense for the Jews, it's a massive, singular target for the other idiot theocracies in the region that they hate and hate them back to attack, great choice of location by the way if you wanted to feel safe.

Israel is basically the geopolitical equivalent of what John McClain was coerced to do in Harlem in Die Hard 3, only for Israel it was a choice.

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[–] erranto 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Way to easy to paint any criticism about Israel as hatred towards Jews. Lobby groups with big money define the limits of the discourse.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This article is about Jews who aren't Israeli. Stop derailing the conversation.

[–] erranto 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is also about conflating legitimate antisemitic hatred with anti-Zionist sentiments. look at how EU countries are banning Pro Palestine Protest under the pretext that those protesting are systematically anti-Jews. look at how UK's Suella Braveman is trying to quash any criticism of Israel actions under the banner of antisemitism and is working on passing lopsided authoritarian laws to imprison any critics of Israel's genocidal records.

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[–] Jumi 14 points 1 year ago

Antisemitism was never gone but just hidden away.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

This is despicable in every way. Not surprising, but despicable. There's absolutely no rationale for being anti-semitic in any way shape or form. NONE. I've even asked on every forum, what the hell is behind anti-semitism, and why do people wallow in such muck? And I never get any good answer. Because there is none that doesn't reveal the inane childish bigotry of the responder. There is no more corrupt evil than the sick hatred of other human beings for any reason. That is as low, perverse, and filthy as humans can possibly get.

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